Pesky Prologues

Sun, Aug 9 2009 10:50pm IST 1
Ancient Woodland
Ancient Woodland
577 Posts
Then succumb to temptation, do it.

Most prologues are superfluous IMHO.
Sun, Aug 9 2009 11:03pm IST 2
Barb
Barb
574 Posts
  • What if I just call the prologue Chapter 1? Will the story flow smoothly from that point anyway? (If the answer is "yes", ditch the prologue.)

  • Do I need to give the readers a fair bit of background information for the story to make sense? (If "yes", the consider doing it in a prologue before the 'real' story starts.)

  • Am I thinking of using a prologue just to hook the reader? (If "yes", then ask yourself why you can't do this just as effectively in Chapter 1 anyway. Do you need to brush up on your technique for creating suspense and conflict? Does your plot need revising? Are you starting your story too early?)
Sun, Aug 9 2009 11:08pm IST 3
Valkia
Valkia
255 Posts
Bluurgh, i'm just not sure how mine fits into there. Grey areas are fun.
Mon, Aug 10 2009 12:24am IST 4
EmmaD
EmmaD
1801 Posts
I'm not sure I'd agree with Marg Macallister's second one. The problem with prologues in general is that the beginning of any novel asks a lot of the reader: we have to work out a whole lot of who/when/where, even before we starting wonder why/how, and all for characters we've had no chance to start caring about. And then it stops, and we have to start all over again in a new place, with new people, and all the time carrying the stuff from the prologue with us, waiting for the moment when it turns out to be important. If it does. Which is why I said mile further up the thread that almost all the reasons people use prologues might well be better served by other means.

Having said that, this is the prologue to A Secret Alchemy:

What I have known, I shall not set down. My habit is silence, and it is a habit that has served me well. Words set on paper are dangerous. Wise men will write no more than is needful, and give it into the hand of their most trusted messenger. No more, that is, than gains the messenger stabling for his horse and safe conduct into the hall, and a privy hearing with its lord. All else is a tale for the messenger to tell: arms and allegiances, open war and secret plans, love and hate and the safety of the realm. So it is with me. After a lifetime of such tales there is no house so safe they may be told within it, no castle so strong it may not be breached at the turn of Fortune’s wheel. At the hour of my death my memories, my tales, will die with me. The great men and their masters, whom I have served with so much diligence and secrecy, expect it.

There are men, and women too, who have witnessed these events and others that I have not. Like pilgrims we have travelled the same road, stumbled over the same stones, knelt at the same shrines, yet each one of us has made a different journey and met a different end. And what our journey truly was, what story each has to tell, none can discern until all journeying is done.

Even the one I loved above all others did not know everything that I have known. He was spared that much sorrow. I sang the ‘Chanson de Roland’ and he spoke of Gawain. I held him in my arms while he wept for his father’s murder, and side by side we shed the blood of traitors and the infidel. We rejoiced in our love: body and soul together. Though seas and mountains and the enmities of princes kept us apart, there was no distance between our hearts. That I could do nothing for him when his boy was taken is the great bitterness of my long life. That he is dead is my great grief.
But my greatest secret he cannot know, and that is a mercy for which I thank God. For I know what came to his boy, and the younger one too. I know as few others do, for few others could have found it out. I could not tell my love, so I told the woman he loved most in the world, as he would have wished. She is wise, and discreet, and lives retired. She will not speak of it.

No human creature knows all. That is the power of God alone, and to God alone shall my story be told.

Louis de Bretaylles
Mon, Aug 10 2009 01:02am IST 5
Tony
Tony
1984 Posts
On the poetry thread I'd just said I was going to bed, but I wanted to say that I thought this was a beautiful piece of writing. Does it actually tell us anything at all, though - other than that you are not going to tell us anything? Is it's intention merely to intrigue? And (shame, shame) not having read the book, is it somehow necessary in order to understand the rest of the book?
Please tell.
(Tomorrow) (which reminds me, did you get the Message I sent you last night?)

Cool
Mon, Aug 10 2009 11:28pm IST 6
Valkia
Valkia
255 Posts
Bah i went ahead and posted mine. Feel free to destroy it. You can't hurt me! *weeps*
Mon, Aug 10 2009 11:34pm IST 7
Tony
Tony
1984 Posts
Where did you post it, V? I can't see it here.
Cool
Mon, Aug 10 2009 11:40pm IST 8
EmmaD
EmmaD
1801 Posts
"Does it actually tell us anything at all, though - other than that you are not going to tell us anything? Is it's intention merely to intrigue? And (shame, shame) not having read the book, is it somehow necessary in order to understand the rest of the book?
Please tell.
"

It has various functions, but no, it's not essential to the plot, nor at all to understanding it:

It gives a voice to a character who is the beloved of one of the three narrators, but who only appears in the rest of the novel in flashbacks (apart from a brief scene at the end).

It sets out several of the major themes of the novel: storytelling, pilgrimage (and the connections between the two), secret love

It explains why there are gaps in the historical record - gaps in which I've written the novel - because so much isn't written down, but given orally by the messenger.

It hints at the beginning that the storytelling/pilgrimage ideas develop into a sense of journeys which come full circle: all the three narrative strands do that in one way or another.

And it hints that in the book the reader will discover "what came to his boy, and the other one too".

And more than that I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you...

Emma
Tue, Aug 11 2009 06:53am IST 9
Valkia
Valkia
255 Posts
Tony, i plonked it in the critiques section, as i said i would. It's a bit long for this thread.
Thu, Dec 10 2009 02:46pm GMT 10
Freaky
Freaky
163 Posts
My prologue isn't a flashback/forward, just an event that is nothing to do with my main characters PoV but is the 1st suggestion of conflict that will happen the next day

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