| Wed, Jan 13 2010 09:59am GMT 1 |

norman normington
91 Posts
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I write as I like to, I have flirted with it for years sometimes
too busy or distracted to do much but I always come back to it, if
do not succeed well so what, if I do great..but should we ever
reach a time when we give up?
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| Wed, Jan 13 2010 10:16am GMT 2 |

AlanP
299 Posts
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No, never.
I've been like you for over 30 years. I still enjoy it when I do it
(as it were) but I have people relying on me for food clothes and
warmth, so I have to do boring work too.
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| Fri, Jan 15 2010 07:15pm GMT 3 |

norman normington
91 Posts
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Yesd curse all those people who rely on us!
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| Wed, Jan 27 2010 03:19pm GMT 4 |

Liss
384 Posts
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Pff whatever. Give up isn't in my vocabulary.
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| Wed, Jan 27 2010 04:28pm GMT 5 |

ColinTW
108 Posts
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I know what everyone is saying but if what you really want is to
be published and you have that strong feeling it is never going
to happen, then it's not surprising the question comes up for a
lot of writers. You have to be so resilient. And sometimes it's
just about asking yourself when you should give up on a
particular idea. Maybe the 20th rewrite isn't going to change
anything?
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| Tue, Feb 9 2010 12:23pm GMT 6 |

Cazza
21 Posts
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I agree with Colin, we have to know when to give up on specific
manuscripts. I sent my first manuscript off to loads of agents -
all of whom said thanks but no thanks. I thought it was brilliant!
Everyone I knew, read it and enjoyed it, but that doesn't mean they
would have picked it off a shelf and purchased it with their hard
earned cash. Obviously, the agents I approached spotted that and
that's what it's all about for them.
It's extremely hard to step away from something that's taken a huge
chunk of your life to produce or to admit that it's just not
marketable, but it's something you have to do if you want to be
published. Wasting time on a project that is going no-where is
pointless, soul destroying and expensive.
I've learned so much since my first ms. I've joined writing groups,
questioned published writers, emailed agents/publishers asking for
advice, stopped writing for a good long time because it just seemed
pointless, and now I've come full circle - I'm back writing another
ms that I will attempt to get published.
I think to keep your sanity you have to let some things go. If you
have only one book in you, you're not going to get very far anyway,
publishers aren't looking for one hit wonders. So if at first you
don't succeed, put it to one side, learn from it and write
something else. You can always bring it back out the woodwork if
you do get something else published and say 'here's one I made
earlier!'
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| Sat, Feb 13 2010 07:43am GMT 7 |

norman normington
91 Posts
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It's extremely hard to step away from something that's taken a
huge chunk of your life to produce or to admit that it's just not
marketable,
But should we just try to produce stuff that is
'marketable'?
James Patterson is marketable but if I ever produced anything
like the stuff he produces I would hit myself in the face with a
plank....seriously I would, maybe a piece of decking...or a 2 be
1 baton tannalised....
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| Sun, Feb 14 2010 03:54pm GMT 8 |

Alice
16 Posts
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I also wonder though.... I finished a book that obviously wasn't
acceptable as it was, and I had spent a lot of time on. It has(d)
loads of great points, but it was the plot that was the issue. I
reviewed the plot, tried to figure it out from all angles, threw
tantrums, etc etc, with no luck. I put it aside, and haven't worked
on it for over a year, but I know that if I sort out the plot
issues I'd have a potential complete novel that I'd be proud to try
push to get published. It's driven me slightly insane. At the end
of it all my feeling is that if I do figure out the plot in my
dreams I'll go back to it and sort it out! I guess you'll know when
it has to be put aside, for me that's when I don't seem to be
getting any further, or I don't enjoy working on it anymore - when
it feels like work! You don't want to be stuck writing for years on
something that won't bring you success and doesn't bring you any
joy....
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| Mon, Feb 15 2010 07:23am GMT 9 |

norman normington
91 Posts
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Exactly right!
I write what's right not write what isn't right.
If it was a chore I would stop.
I actually like most of my characters I invent. To me they are
real and inhabit another world.
Alice that book seems to have really taken a toll on you, don't
want to be personal but you look a wee bit thin!
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