What makes a book a 'good book'?

Thu, Mar 11 2010 08:13pm GMT 1
Jak
Jak
623 Posts
I asked John today what three things make a book 'good'. For me I want a story that captivates me, I want to be able to escape into the book and ignore the word I live in. For that to happen the characters must be believable and relatable.
What makes a book 'good' for you?
Thu, Mar 11 2010 08:27pm GMT 2
Nashelle
Nashelle
765 Posts
I must care about characters. The book could have the best plot in the world but if I don't care what happens to the characters I won't read on. Also a book must have 'readable' prose with no wasted words.
Thu, Mar 11 2010 10:31pm GMT 3
Khaloth
Khaloth
59 Posts
A good book needs characters with believeable goals and actions, not necessarily symphatetic or likeable but with distinct personalities. Thight plotting or fluent language can not save a book if it is devoid of memorable characters. There are some sci-fi books i have enjoyed even if the characters has been slightly bland, but these books usualy had some strong or original idea that intrigued me.
Thu, Mar 11 2010 10:59pm GMT 4
John Taylor
John Taylor
916 Posts
If I am reading in bed when I should be at a meeting, it's a good book. Good books are addictive, and for me, that addiction is a blend of caring for the characters, living into the situation and wallowing in the language. Good books make me cry – and sometimes that's because I know that I could never write like that!
Fri, Mar 12 2010 08:57am GMT 5
Spangles
Spangles
749 Posts
For me, a good novel has to completely engross me in its own world, it needs believable characters that I have some sympathy with (whether or not I like them) and it must be well written. Good non-fiction, on the other hand, must explain its subject fully and coherently, must captivate and hold my interest, and must set my imagination racing.
Fri, Mar 12 2010 04:14pm GMT 6
Chinch
Chinch
487 Posts
I need a hook at the beginning and a fast pace. Additionally, like other have said, the characters are extremely important. I must either care very much what happens to them, or be very interested in them to keep me reading. I am not a person who will finish a book just because I started it. Unfortunately, just lately I have given up on several books. The latest one I gave up in annoyance after reading two thirds of the book as I realised I couldn't care less what happened to the utterly boring 2D main character. And that was a Dean Koontz book.
Fri, Mar 12 2010 06:28pm GMT 7
Weens
Weens
998 Posts
Like everyone above, I need characters I care about in a captivating story. I like the story to start right at the beginning and not have to read through chapters of preamble before the story 'proper' begins.
Fri, Mar 12 2010 07:28pm GMT 8
Barb
Barb
574 Posts
"The latest one I gave up in annoyance after reading two thirds of the book as I realised I couldn't care less what happened to the utterly boring 2D main character. And that was a Dean Koontz book."
Was this "Relentless", by any chance? I gave in after three chapters.
Tue, Mar 16 2010 05:46pm GMT 9
T.W Duke
T.W Duke
140 Posts
Do you think a completely loathsome character can carry a book as well as one you really like and care about?

In other words, will you turn the pages just as quickly so see an arsehole get what's coming to him as you will to see something good happen to a nice person?
Wed, Mar 17 2010 02:44pm GMT 10
Chinch
Chinch
487 Posts
I was once given some really useful advice regarding MCs. It is okay to have an unlikable MC so long as you make sure that they are very, very interesting. It also helps if they have some redeeming features, or if they change during the story so that they reform. So, I think the answer is yes, an unlikable character can carry a book, but not if he/she were completely loathsome.
Wed, Mar 17 2010 02:46pm GMT 11
Chinch
Chinch
487 Posts
"The latest one I gave up in annoyance after reading two thirds of the book as I realised I couldn't care less what happened to the utterly boring 2D main character. And that was a Dean Koontz book."
Was this "Relentless", by any chance? I gave in after three chapters.

Actually, it was Velocity. I know you really liked it, and so did I at first, but it just died a death for me. The character of Billy was so dull and 2D.

Thu, Apr 1 2010 02:43pm IST 12
SM Worsey
SM Worsey
617 Posts
Like pretty much everyone else, solid, believeable, strong characters are the main draw for me. However I will put a book down if it either has crap dialogue, or gaping plot holes/inconsistancies.

I was partway through a story recently that I really enjoyed because it was witty and imaginative with a fast pace, exciting plot and great eccentric characters, when I had to stop reading in disgust. The day after being beaten up very badly in a pub brawl and having broken several ribs and an arm, the main character hoovered, scrubbed and tidied his son's very messy flat and then went dancing with a girl. This plot hole annoyed me so much (a person with broken ribs can barely move for pain, let alone hoover and dance!) that I could not bring myself to care any more.
Thu, Apr 1 2010 04:12pm IST 13
EmmaD
EmmaD
1983 Posts
The MC needs to be compelling - which doesn't mean likeable. (I've just been rivetted from start to finish by Zoe Heller's Notes on a Scandal, where the MC/narrator is exactly that.) A world I can see and smell and feel and believe in, however economically evoked.

I have to say, though, that I can't these day be doing with any book which doesn't have top-notch writing, whether it's a tautly, cleanly written commercial thriller, or a sharp, funny rom com, or something more literary where the prose - baroquely original or crystalline clear - is a pleasure in itself, as well as conveying a compelling story.

Emma
Thu, Apr 1 2010 09:45pm IST 14
Jak
Jak
623 Posts
Emma - so you havent read the twilight series then :)
Thu, Apr 1 2010 10:53pm IST 15
EmmaD
EmmaD
1983 Posts
Jak, having a teenager in the house, I FEEL as if I've read every bloomin' word. But I never say that a book isn't good, if it keeps several million teenagers reading. And if it keeps the book trade afloat, as Meyer is doing: the market for books grew by 3% last year. 2% of that was Meyer...

One of my tests of a good book is whether I get more out of it each time I read it, but that implies that I didn't get everything first go. Some readers hate that feeling, and that's fair enough, while others love the sense of yet-unplumbed possibilities.

Emma
Fri, Apr 2 2010 02:26pm IST 16
Steve
Steve
706 Posts
What makes a book good for me is p'raps a smidge different to other readers.

In fiction or non-fiction, I want to learn something good that I didn't know previously. In the case of fiction, I don't want to read the same plot as done before elsewhere (just reworked a slightly different way - so that rules out a great many contemporary "novels"), and I don't want to read about the same old character stereotypes, no matter how beautifully written they may be.

The second thing that draws me in is excellent humour. If something is making me laugh out loud, I will forgive it many other things.

The third is, like for many others, an originality and a quality in the style of writing itself.

For me, the masters of all three of these things are/were: Douglas Adams, Robert Rankin, William Shakespeare and Bill Bryson to a lesser degree. In terms of scriptwriting, it's Richard Curtis.

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