As none of you can see me, take it from me that I'm hyperventilating.
| Tue, Jul 27 2010 10:09pm IST 1 |

Liss
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Okay, I just re-read a very helpful critique that Malcolm and
Babblefish helped me with and was at first thrilled with the
comments and took them on board.
But then I realised, this was just a snipped of my MS and that the
changes given to me would also need to be applied to the whole
thing. I'm not a subjective reader, so I can't go through like they
did and give myself helpful feedback, I need someone to go through
the entire damned thing (who knows their stuff) and tell me what I
need to do.
So what do I do about that then?
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| Tue, Jul 27 2010 10:42pm IST 2 |

Babblefish
846 Posts
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I also have an entire damn thing that needs going through, although
I'm not sure how well I know my stuff. Perhaps we could come up
with some kind of mutual editing deal?
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| Wed, Jul 28 2010 06:30am IST 3 |

stephenterry
1697 Posts
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'Guys' - this is hard work. There are editors and
editors - some focusing on technical aspects like grammar and some
on development issues, like POV.
A professional could charge $12 per 1,000 words - that's cheap
!!
Nashelle is good - whether you can enlist her help, no idea. A
whole M/s takes time - I changed a POV on my 70k novel - it took me
5 days, 4+ hours a day. Heartbreaking to remove.
Upside is that if a publisher is interested, they will do it for
you (hopefully).
Downside - you might not like the end result...
Sorry
stephen
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| Wed, Jul 28 2010 05:17pm IST 4 |

SM Worsey
617 Posts
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Three suggestions, Liss:
1. Do a manuscript swap with another WC member who has completed
their story, pending editing. make comments on each other's stories
and post back to each other (or do it on screen and email back). I
have done this with two other members and it has been a very
rewarding process all round.
2. Set up a critiques group on here and advertise it in "Critiques"
so that three or four other members can join you to go through
chapters or entire manuscripts and compare notes (specify that they
must have complete or almost complete stories so that you do not
get time-wasters).
3. Pay someone like Writers Workshop for a professional critique.
You can of course do this after doing the above as well (in fact,
that's prob the most effective way.)
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| Wed, Jul 28 2010 06:45pm IST 5 |

Liss
384 Posts
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Thanks Worsey :) x
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| Wed, Jul 28 2010 07:53pm IST 6 |

Nashelle
765 Posts
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Hi Liss, don't panic! This writing bunisness can seem very daunting
but before you pay anything for editing, I'd suggest you put your
manuscript away for a good few months and write somthing else. Post
things here, learn more about the craft. Then when you return to
your MS you will be able to veiw it more objectively, and, because
you have grown as a writer, the changes you may need to make will
be more promenent.
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| Wed, Jul 28 2010 11:59pm IST 7 |

Acorn
25 Posts
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Breathe. I think Nashelle is right to suggest you putting it our of
your mind for a while and coming back to it fresh and objective. It
is almost impossible to impersonate a critical editor - which is
why it's probably best to pay one. Given my experience of working
in publishing and a literary agency, I don't think it's true to say
that if a publisher likes it they will do the work. Of course the
publishers will want to develop the work but they are looking for
reasons to reject it and you don't want to give them any. I know it
can be a slow painful process but your work will be better for it
at the end of the day. Now take another breath. x
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