Madness

Tue, May 24 2011 01:04pm IST 1
Katie
Katie
118 Posts

Thankyou Stephen it does :)...

Tue, May 24 2011 06:28pm IST 2
Wrathnar the Unreasonable
Wrathnar the Unreasonable
212 Posts
The Voices say I need your skin to keep Them from absorbing my vital effulgences. Keep still, this won't hurt . . . much.
Fri, Jun 3 2011 06:20pm IST 3
Freewriter
Freewriter
3 Posts
After looking into psychological disorders for a character of mine I discovered there are many different flavours of 'madness'. There are distinct psychological disorders that all have different symptoms.

Research, research, research. There are stacks of websites, including the dreaded wikipedia, that explain various conditions. Tracking down personla experiences and testimonials would be very useful.

For isntance you're going to need a disorder that matches your charcters symptoms. You're also going to need to do some research on the medication assoicated with your disorder. The period in which you're writing will also dictate the treatment. There are many aspects of mental illness that will play on your character. What stigmas are assoicated with the condition? Is there a danger of being committed?

Hope I've helped without driving you mad!

Wed, Jun 15 2011 08:58pm IST 4
Veek
Veek
334 Posts
Fantastic thread this. I've learned a lot by reading through it.

Madness. I posted the first 3000 words of my book-to-be (memoir) a couple of days ago. The issue of 'showing not telling' came up in the feedback I received from members. I have written about the onset of my own psychological disturbances that an accident left me with.

This thread has given me a light bulb moment - I think. Rather than saying "I often felt that groups of people were conspiring against me in some way. Hello Paranoia," I have realised that the way forward is to write something like "They all glance at me as I walk past. Why are they talking about me?"

And, as someone mentioned, the reader will work out any existence of mental/psychological disturbance for themselves - providing the writing is good enough.

A great place for writers this.



Wed, Jun 15 2011 09:58pm IST 5
Ali
Ali
490 Posts
I agree with Vic, great thread.
My book features an obsessive pychotic baddie and the MC is clinically depressed with a touch of PTSD. I think I'm learning that you show this through the behaviour of the characters. The thing is that in the real world you can't tell that a person is ill. They don't wear a sign saying Mental Illness.
There was a sad case in Cornwall that just went to inquest the other day. A girl was taken off suicide watch because she always washed and dressed herself to a high standard and applied her make-up immaculately. Plus she was pretty. You can guess what happened.
Wed, Jul 20 2011 04:16am IST 6
ClaireLeyana
ClaireLeyana
36 Posts
I might echoe some people or be a bit late to comment... But this is my take on it.

But yes research!

And I know you posted on my wall about not being admitted into a psych ward, but I think that has definately helped me, I don't think I'd be writing about one of my characters being admitted or even being mentally ill, if I didn't go through it, being locked up you get to experience a lot of 'details' and notice a lot of things during research I don't think otherwise you would, the whole 'oh yeah totally' thing.

I read in a previous comment on here someone saying about the behaviours that do get you committed, and it's very true and most of the time the character won't always be like that. They would go through 'extreme' behaviours and almost 'an episode', and even though there is no cure for insanity other times they will be completely normal.. usually achieved by stability and the ability to cope and/or someone who looks after them and keeps them stable. Stability and healthy mind set is definately not achieved easily and the everyday can consistantly be a struggle and will always be challanged by others, as even the though 'the character' feels 'stable' some behaviours and such to outsiders can still be very shocking and they still horrible things and tell you, you are nuts and should be locked up for life even though you think are coping extremely well. As for going through an episode their behaviour would be very distructive and they might not care enough or even realise what harm they are doing to themselves or others until much, much later down the line. And rarely feel regret or guilt for things they have done, if anything more anger and frustration of not doing things right. They would also consistantly struggle to feel human and 'normal', and will almost mirror or mimick other people they almost 'admire' or want to be like and essientally create a personality and behaviours on what they learn is acceptable behaviour, mostly by a lot of trail and error.

I've also discovered, telling people I suffer with and such ends up leading to bad news, and most of the time they say 'oh well that explains a lot' you think it might help in them understanding you, but usually it makes them more prejedice and usually gives them 'fuel' or reason to hate you. So you end up, when meeting new people or gaining new friends, you try harder to just be normal and not say anything, unless you really, really have to. But in the end the true friends don't make an issue out of it and treat you like any other person, which in the end helps a lot towards the never ending search for happiness.

And one last thing I would say, even though this is probably more of me ranting! Someone who ends up truly understanding the mental illness they have NEVER uses it as an excuse for anything. I've known a lot of depressed people and they use it as an excuse for everything, like not being able to work being one of them, usually the people who update their status's on fb everytime they feel 'down' or something or update EVERYONE about shit they are going through and then end up calling me an attention seeker when they private convo me or come and sit in my living room and talk with me about stuff I have gone or am going through... and tell loads of people I didn't want to know about stuff. Which ends up relating to the 'not saying anything when you meet new people'. You learn to be tough and grow a thick skin.

Hope this helps, even just a little bit.

xo<3

Wed, Jul 20 2011 04:30am IST 7
ClaireLeyana
ClaireLeyana
36 Posts
Yes, Athelstone post. Very true. During episodes and delusional gradnure 'government conspiracys' tend not to be stupid, but very true. I have said before when I'm in my 'I'm being watched' is listening devices in the airvents and cameras in the lamp posts outside the apparentment window... and people sitting out side in vans or cars or the nighbours across the street. Once was even trained pigeons... I laugh now but I was serious at the time 'pigeons who watch people and report back to the government' haa!
Sun, Jan 15 2012 02:17pm GMT 8
Philippa
Philippa
350 Posts
Hi Katie

I am a clinical psychologist. Happy to help with questions about "madness" / "insanity", if you have some specific ones.

e.g. There are no "asylums" anymore! (There are inpatient mental health wards)

There is a lot of stigma / cliche / bias regarding mental illness. As a psychologist, I hope I can help steer you clear of it.
Sun, Jan 15 2012 06:44pm GMT 9
Old Fat Prop
Old Fat Prop
205 Posts
Great band though....
Sun, Jan 15 2012 09:38pm GMT 10
Erebus
Erebus
46 Posts

Think I'll second that Prop! Cool

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