Clouders Competition - May 11
| Sun, May 1 2011 06:43pm IST 1 | ||
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mike 641 Posts |
My Dear Sir,
Your book is buggerall and we cannot possibly include it in our
forthcoming list, We feel that... blah blah... etc...
May's competition is for rejection slips. These are addressed to
authors who have submitted manuscripts for books that have become
classics or very well know books. The rejection slip should not
include the name of the author or the title of the book. The word
limit is 400 words as a precis of a plot might be required.
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| Tue, May 3 2011 07:33am IST 2 | ||
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mike 641 Posts |
If this is not a popular choice for a competition I do have other
ideas. I tried to think of something often mentioned by 'word
Clouders and rejection slips' came to my mind.
How about the most intriguing shopping list?
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| Tue, May 3 2011 07:52am IST 3 | ||
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Barb 312 Posts |
People are just having a bit of a think maybe....
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| Tue, May 3 2011 08:01am IST 4 | ||
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mike 641 Posts |
I will leave the first choice. However, once upon a time, I wrote a
play about how people betray themselves by the books they read, so
the shopping list idea is not so daft. Off to work now.
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| Tue, May 3 2011 05:06pm IST 5 | ||
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Rebecca 285 Posts |
mmm...
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| Wed, May 4 2011 09:04am IST 6 | ||
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Glyn 10 Posts |
Dear Sir/Madam We have engaged with your writing style and find your prose easy to read. However the plot seems rather implausible and the story quite weak. Less is not necessarily more. Two lines are not enough! |
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| Wed, May 4 2011 09:06am IST 7 | ||
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Glyn 10 Posts |
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| Wed, May 4 2011 09:07am IST 8 | ||
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Glyn 10 Posts |
Please disregard both of my above posts-sent in error! :-( |
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| Wed, May 4 2011 05:25pm IST 9 | ||
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Caoimh 90 Posts |
Not 100% sure I know what this competition is all about, but then
again I'm never 100% sure about anything!! And as i've never sent
anything away I've never recieved a rejection letter!!
Here goes nothing....
Dear Ms Jackie Rowling,
We here at Owdybow Publishing have read your manuscript with
much pleasure and enjoyment.
Unfortunately we have decided not to offer you a contract or
publish the novel. We have several reasons behind this,
including;
i) The title of the book is tremendously dull;
ii) Witches and wizards are very 1980s, we see today's youth
being interested in robots and gadgets, not spells and owls;
iii) The character's names leave a bit to be desired. How the
hell do you even pronounce 'Hermione'?!
Perhaps if you see fit to address these issues we would maybe
have another look at the manuscript.
Best of luck in the future
Tom Riddle
(Director of Publishing)
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| Wed, May 4 2011 06:43pm IST 10 | ||
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Barb 312 Posts |
Dearest Ma'am, Thank you for sending us your sweet little tale from
the south. We were amused by the antics of your heroine, but don't
think our readers will believe that she fought so bravely to keep
the family farm. During wars women swoon, not make dresses from the
curtains, so we don't feel your story is very believable. As for
the rouge, he wouldn't have married her no matter how attractive
she might have been. A woman is not her waist measurement! We also
think his easy manner with the slaves and hired help is unlikely.
We wish you well with your book, but we are looking for writing
that makes a statement about our country and our culture.
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| Thu, May 5 2011 10:19am IST 11 | ||
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Guero Davila 251 Posts |
Dear Sirs We thank you for the recent submission of your collaborative project, which we read with interest; however, we regretfully feel that this is not a work that would fit within our list. There are several reasons that have led to our decision. The collaboration itself is ambitious but ultimately we felt that it produced several inconsistencies in both plot and tone that would perhaps have benefited from a single lead voice; several aspects are repeated in different sections of the novel and whilst some offer different viewpoints on the same event, others resort to repetition, giving the overall impression that the book is overwritten. We assume, given the various powers of your main protagonist, that this work is intended for a Young Adult readership. Unfortunately we feel that the Superhero genre is oversubscribed at present and that the notion of the hero being presented as a son of a god is now a little passé. For example, Odin’s son Thor and Jupiter’s progeny Apollo have both become definitive examples of the genre. Moreover, whilst Apollo’s talents were musical and Thor’s abilities were to conjure thunder and rain, we are of the opinion that your central character’s multi-talented powers – healing the sick, converting water to wine, feeding thousands from a few pieces of fish and a few slices of bread, walking on water and, as the book reaches its climax, rising from the dead – create the potential for disbelief. Perhaps you might like to consider a revision, whereby a singular power is granted to your character in order that your readership might more easily identify with him? As a final point, we also felt that your protagonist’s nemesis, Satan, is an underdeveloped character who would benefit from a greater back story. Satan is presented as ‘evil’, and yet we learn little about what has made him so. In many ways his story may be more interesting than that of Chris. Again, you may wish to consider a revised version, whereby Satan becomes the central focus. If so, we recommend that Luke’s talents are utilised as the chief storyteller. We wish you luck with your work and please feel free to contact us again in the future should you decide to redraft your material. |
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| Thu, May 5 2011 03:13pm IST 12 | ||
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Rebecca 285 Posts |
Dear Sir, Thank you for your submission. Unfortunately I don’t feel that I can find a publisher for this kind of fantasy, and trilogies written by unknown authors are especially hard to place. I didn’t find the mythical species you named Hobbits to be believable, elves are frankly passé, and I wasn’t sure where in the United Kingdom is Middle Earth. Maybe you meant Middlesex? Also allegorical tales about the imminent rise of Nazi oppression could cause offence. Sincerely yours Adolph. SS publishing. |
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| Thu, May 5 2011 03:56pm IST 13 | ||
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SecretSpi 588 Posts |
April 1st, 1925
My dear Sir,
I am afraid that your proposed children’s tale perturbed rather
than enchanted me. As a publisher with a responsibility for the
healthy development of youngsters’ minds today, I was disquieted
to see depictions of characters with clear manifestations of
mental instability, most of whom could have come straight from
the pages of Professor Freud’s casebook. One exhibits all the
symptoms of a depressive melancholy while another has a
compulsive-eating hysteria. Yet another can only be diagnosed as
having an advanced hyperactive mania.
Fostering good mental hygiene standards amongst infants is surely
one of the primary duties of modern society, in which we
publishers are proud to play our part.
Finally, Sir, I am rendered speechless when I consider that you
are (perhaps blissfully) unaware that the name of your main
character is the phonetic equivalent of a nursery word for
excrement. Professor Freud himself has proposed that the control
of the bowels in young infants – and its success or otherwise –
can have grave implications on the future mental health of the
human being. It is with all good faith and genuine concern for a
fellow literary colleague that I sincerely recommend a
consultation with the professor in Harley Street whose address
appears below.
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| Thu, May 5 2011 09:09pm IST 14 | ||
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Tony 2108 Posts |
1945
Sir, Your manuscript is enclosed. While there was a certain element of fun in the anthropomorphic nature of the story, it was hard to identify your target readership. Talking animals suggests a children’s story, yet some of the violence rendered by vicious hounds and the banishing of some quite likable characters to the knacker’s yard renders it quite unsuitable for those of a tender age. So I must assume it is intended for an adult audience, though its disparaging portrayal of the main human character is hardly likely to endear it to any but the most ardent misanthropist. Your choice of names, too, for certain of the less agreeable animals is perhaps unfortunate and would certainly rule out the possibility of selling translation rights to any of the soviet bloc countries. I fear I must turn down the opportunity to represent you on this occasion, but I wish you well if you decide to try elsewhere. If you do so, I should point out one particular point that you will need to re-think. The adjective ‘equal’ is absolute and cannot be governed by an adverb. Someone cannot be ‘more equal’. Sincerely,
A
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| Sat, May 7 2011 03:43am IST 15 | ||
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stephenterry 1882 Posts |
Dear Sir. The chocolate coated scorpions were melted between the pages. I realise you had good intentions by sending the package by courier from Thailand, but we have had unseasonable weather these last two years. Nevertheless, our latest technical improvement, Rover, licked off the worst of it and left it legible to the trained eye. We have a system here: we put all manuscripts into the slush pile and then we let Rover dig one out, after our Earl Grey break. You will be delighted to hear that your story, A Dog’s Dinner, was selected. Such a catchy title – loved it to bits. So did Rover. It would have helped if you had numbered the pages, but I’m a jigsaw fanatic during working hours, and reconstructing the first three hundred and twenty four chapters was a “piece of cake”. Excuse me for the literary exploitation of this idiom – which reminds me so much of your style of writing. Simple. That brings me back to your story. I thought it would be good practice to let Marjorie, our resident psycho, take a first peek. I’m not quite sure which branch of the profession, but she has a black sense of humour and a cast iron stomach. Just as well. Her feedback was - amazing. A Dog’s Dinner is different; our editorial team is agreed on that. Your writing is unconventional literary fiction suitable for the marble-topped coffee tables of the impoverished upper classes; the chopping scenes - all ninety-seven - were well thought out, even if a little repetitive. I felt that Edgar Allan - your main character - even if he suffers from asthma and a dyslexic god complex, should own a dog to bring credibility into the story. Although a god would spread hairs everywhere, and I quite understand your VOP. Your minor characters played bit parts and I’m not so sure this worked as well as it could; we hardly got to know them. Our main concern was the setting. Dungeons: iron chains attached to walls dripping with condensation, stone floors with scurrying rats, a mad professor, and a table full of carving knives. It had atmosphere, granted, but it was definitely TTO. Subtleness is our new mantra. “A Dog’s Dinner” is crap. Kind regards Felicity Fotheringale-Smythe. Crufts winner, 1960. PS I found the cheque folded between the handwritten pages of the last chapter. Clever, that. |
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| Mon, May 16 2011 12:52pm IST 16 | ||
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AlanP 474 Posts |
Dear Sir,
Regretfully we are returning your manuscript. It has some good qualities and shows a certain potential. Overall we thought it was well structured, but somewhat overwritten. We feel that it isn’t really suited to our list. In fact to go further we doubt there is a space for it at all in the current marketplace. These days it isn’t really possible to sell a war story that doesn’t involve any war. We note that the only fighting you feature was between armies that were essentially on the same side and that there was no fighting as such. Merely a rather wimpish surrender and a bit of firing squad action. The main war action appears to take place elsewhere with a big battle between the Allies and the Germans. This is the sort of thing that readers would want to see in a war story. Not some surrendering "prefer to go out decently" wimpish side changing what nots. In addition, these days gay characters really need to be out of the closet and take a greater lead to address that part of the readership. The thought of a hulking gay soldier hiding his unrequited love for the captain for years and being OK with his courting a local girl isn't at all plausible. Not in such an all male environment. And frankly, as a serving officer in an occupying army it seems so unlikely that he doesn’t manage congress with the girl, even with a serious father on the patch. And not for another fifty years? We mean, really! We can’t recommend anyone else that might want to take it on, unfortunately. Perhaps if you made some changes and the submitted it elsewhere it may have possibilities for a small run. You could try to get it on the reading group circuit, for example. If we may offer one final word of firm advice as we always like to close our letters constructively. Make it a guitar. How many modern readers even know what a mandolin is? Yours Blah, Blah, Waffle and Blah. |
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| Mon, May 16 2011 01:33pm IST 17 | ||
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Tenacityflux 1265 Posts |
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Dear Sir or Madam, Thank you for giving us the opportunity to review your synopsis and the first three chapters of your book; however, regretfully we have decided not to take up your kind invitation to publish at this juncture. You are clearly as gifted author, but our main issue is with the sale-ability of the work. In today’s competitive and cut throat market, length is a key issue when it comes to commissioning new work, and as your synopsis ran to twenty five pages, and the novel itself was is in excess of 120,000 words, we feel that some serious editing is needed to make it saleable. Also, though we enjoyed the central premise, for clarities sake might we suggest the action is relocated to a more Anglo centric location, as Russian names have a limited appeal, and perhaps a more domestic setting would bring it more easily within the grasp of the average reader? Update it to contemporary Slough and set it in a busy hair dressers run by a divorcing couple and a tug-of-love story round a little dog, and you might have a more viable product, especially with a few to the potential for a TV adaptation. As for the title, well, we feel it’s a little vague in it’s focus, War and Peace, which is it? If you can take on board out suggestions, how about ‘Hair Peace,’ nothing like a pun to jump off the shelves. Throw in a few football references and some descriptions of shoes and wedding dresses, and we might be talking. Yours truly, Girlie and pink publishing ltd. |
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| Sat, May 28 2011 10:06pm IST 18 | ||
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Noel 122 Posts |
My dear young lady,
Thank you so much for entrusting this publishing house with what I feel to be – nay, what I know to be - a delightfully fluent and captivating narrative, crafted in the very best traditions of liberal, egalitarian American literary fiction. My colleagues on the commissioning bored all agree that, had any of them read your submission, they should very likely feel as enthused by it as indeed I do. However. We felt – or, rather, I felt (and the rest of the board would very likely have felt had they…etc, etc…) - that your manuscript - like, indeed, Icarus – flew too close to the wind. This in terms of its imbued propensity for unsettling liberal democratic sensibilities. That, I regret to inform you, is the nigger in the woodpile, so to speak. Well, several niggers, actually – at least three: We felt (or, rather, I felt…etc, etc…) that issues relating to racial prejducialism in small southern towns, though laudably addressed from within the egocentric vernacular of your nine year old protagonist, would be rendered more properly and effectively by an adult voice steeped in gravitas. Her father, the lawyer, perhaps? Children hounding a shy, reclusive middle-aged man – who very likely suffers from litigiously-proximate mental health challenges (we, you will note, prefer the enabling term ‘challenges’ to the more disabling ‘problems’) – is not a plot direction that this publishing house is willing to take in the current socio-literary climate. Following on from the above: a shy, reclusive middle-aged man leaving sweeties, shiny coins and other grooming inducements in a place where young children are quite clearly meant to find them – this is not a plot deviation we can countenance under any circumstances. In view of the above albatrosses around your novel’s neck, we must respectfully decline your submission on this occasion. We do, of course, sincerely wish you every success with your future literary endeavours. Oh, yes, your novel’s epigram - ‘Lawyers, I suppose, were children once.’ Lose it: In our experience they never were. And they always like to sue. Yours etc, etc… Bodgitt, Wing and Aprare. |
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| Sat, Jun 4 2011 08:10am IST 19 | ||
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mike 641 Posts |
'Barb' won May's competition. I am sorry about the delay but I have
been unable to access the site.
I felt Barb wrote the best plot summery and merged a plausible
reason for rejection into her entry; it is also written with
humour, it has the best first line and could well have won just
on this sentence! It is also accurate for the period in which the
book is written.
There were few entries on the short list. Noel would have come
second, if only for the tact of his reader and his very plausible
argument. AlanP would have come third in as,there seems to be no
aspect of the book the reader thought publishable. Tenecityflux
just failed to make it to the short list for a humorous
contemporary view of Russian classic, but the book was written in
the nineteenth century and could not have been rejected on these
grounds.
Caoimh. I didn't feel these were plausible reasons for rejecting
the book. You might better have argued along the lines that the
book is set in a private school when the tendency has been to set
books in inner-city schools.
For some of the other entries. Quis Ipsos Custodes Estes doubly
applies. (Who judges the judges) I am afraid my latin is non
existent.
Tony, had your reader rejected the book on the grounds that it
merely failed as a children's fiction, you would have won. But I
feel you added political points which rather undermined your
idea. (The same rather applies to Rebecca's entry.)
SecretSpy, though a funny entry, your reader has attacked the
author and not the book.
I wonder why nobody attempted a parody rejection slip? Henry
James or Jack Karouac might have been appropriate.
Stephen Terry has entered a different competition, though this
was the most imaginative entry.
Glyn, had a book existed, called 'blank pages,' you might have
won. But i could not think of any book from what you posted.
Dear Guero,
I cannot imagine a Roman rejecting your proposal for the reasons
you state. The Romans were historians and might well have argued
that the subject had been adequately covered by Josephus.
(History is written by the victors and the Romans were the
victors at the time)
They might also have queried the discrepancies in the various
accounts in second part. They might also have considered the
whole book inadequately sourced. They might also have commented
various similar books were in circulation and the proposal was
somewhat derivative. I suspect these books would have been
considered seditious. It is only with hindsight that the Romans
could have realised they had committed a public relations
exercise of immense proportions. Yours is very much a
contemporary rejection slip.
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| Sat, Jun 4 2011 02:14pm IST 20 | ||
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Tony 2108 Posts |
Thank you Mike for going to the trouble of giving such an excellent
critique of the entries, and congratulations to Barb in
absentia. It will be something nice for her to come back
to.
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| Sun, Jun 5 2011 09:00pm IST 21 | ||
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AlanP 474 Posts |
Mike. Thanks for the honourable mention. I'll win one of these one
day. Clearly not this day. Ah well.
Perhaps as Barb isn't going to be setting the next month's comp you might like to nominate someone else to pick up the baton? |
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| Mon, Jun 6 2011 01:12pm IST 22 | ||
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mike 641 Posts |
I could suggest a comp about 'shopping lists' but otherwise I could
nominate Noel as he came second? It was a close run thing!
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| Mon, Jun 6 2011 06:36pm IST 23 | ||
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SecretSpi 588 Posts |
I think it's a great idea to let Noel set the competition - his
entry was really super.
Thanks to mike for detailed feedback, delivered in that
inimitable mike style!
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| Tue, Jun 7 2011 11:42am IST 24 | ||
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Tony 2108 Posts |
I'd 'third' the idea. Go Noel!
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| Tue, Jun 7 2011 12:37pm IST 25 | ||
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stephenterry 1882 Posts |
stop faffing about and get Noel on board
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