| Thu, Dec 29 2011 07:25pm GMT 1 |

winged hippopo
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Since my termination of the Agreement with my publisher half a
year elapsed and my book is still being issued and traded in as a
paperback and e-book by various Internet booksellers (including
Google and Amazons) despite their assurances of withdrawal of my
book in both formats. Their practices cross all boundaries of
decency. They violate my intellectual property and law at the
same time. Some Internet booksellers trade openly in my book.
Some of them use various circumvents to enable to order it. In
some cases there are used various tricks to create appearance
that one have to do with another book. I have intervened in the
Society of Authors but they seem to be completely helpless. Does
anyone know where I could get assistance in this matter?
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| Thu, Dec 29 2011 09:39pm GMT 2 |

Tony
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What language is your book published in, WH? Is English not your
first language? It is a little hard to take seriously an apparenly
101 year-old with a dish-mop for a wig, who declares himself to be
a self-published author and yet talks about an Agreement with his
publisher.
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| Thu, Dec 29 2011 11:36pm GMT 3 |

winged hippopo
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Well, firstly my books are in English (BE), no matter which
language is my first one. Secondly, there has crept a mistake in
my age, I tried to enter a proper year but I couldn't make
correction. It looks like a fault in the software. Thirdly, it's
just my avatar. Do you think I have to look grave. BTW you have a
parrot on your arm. I could support my post with dozens of links
but don't know if it was not infringement of rules of this
forum.
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| Fri, Dec 30 2011 12:13am GMT 4 |

Tony
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Yes, the Cloud does sometimes play tricks with ages, right
enough.
It's OK to post a link or two. And, of course, you can have
whatever you want for your avatar. So that's not you, then? (My pic
is me. Not the parrot - I'm the other one!)
It was just that your post was - unusual - particularly as a first
post. And it gave little detail and contained information that
conflicted with your profile. You'd need to tell us a bit more if
anyone is going to be able to offer any advice.
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| Fri, Dec 30 2011 12:36am GMT 5 |

winged hippopo
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Thanks. It really is me :)
I would suggest to have a closer look at least to 9 links to see
how the above mentioned circumvents work (in case of paperback
and e-book):
http://www.powells.com/biblio/91-9781905399437-0
http://ebookpie.com/publishers/885-perfect-publishers-ltd
http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Three-Indispensable-Steps-Theory-Everything-Lechowski-Andrzej/9781905399437
http://ebookpie.com/books/243777-three-indispensable-steps-to-the-theory-of-everything-ebook
http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Three_Indispensable_Steps_to_the_Theory.html?id=qSLTQgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y
http://www.wowio.com/users/product.asp?BookId=228142
http://www.amazon.de/Three-Indispensable-Steps-Theory-Everything/dp/1905399421
http://www.amazon.fr/Three-Indispensable-Steps-Theory-Everything/dp/1905399421
http://www.cdwow.ie/books/andrzej-lechowski-three-indispensible-to-the-theory-of-everything/dp/6633027
I would be grateful for any advice what steps should I undertake
aiming at a complete withrowal of both formats of my books. I
don't have any profit from this.
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| Fri, Dec 30 2011 08:16am GMT 6 |

Barb
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Hi WH, you may have to wait a bit for someone with the expertise in
this area to have a moment to respond. One of the cool people of
the Cloud will answer you - it's just a matter of waiting.
Um Tony, are you aware of how you sounded in your first post?
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| Fri, Dec 30 2011 11:20am GMT 7 |

EmmaD
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Winged Hippo, you could try asking the Society of Authors about
this, although I'm not sure how much help they can be if you're not
a member.
There is a real problem when publishers go bust, and they usually
only do so after months of muddle - including things like not
getting round to doing what you asked them.
But if a publisher goes bust the rights in your work revert
straight to you, so you could get in touch with the booksellers
direct, and try to find out what's going on.
Another thing to find out is what happens to any stock of physical
books that the publisher holds. The legal ownership of them can be
tricky - do they belong to you as the copyright holder, or are the
one of the assets of the liquidated company? Often the liquidator
is happy to sell the copies to you for peanuts, though. I'm not
sure how it works with e-books, though, since there's considerable
outlay in them, but only digital files.
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| Fri, Dec 30 2011 11:21am GMT 8 |

EmmaD
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| Fri, Dec 30 2011 11:26am GMT 9 |

EmmaD
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Sorry, missed you saying that you've asked the Society of Authors
and they can't help.
It sounds to me as if you need to get in touch with the liquidator
and find out what's going on. Is the company still being run by
someone, or has it ceased trading?
If the Society of Authors can't help directly, can they put you
onto a lawyer with experience of publishing contracts? It is a
genuinely difficult position, and would depend on the terms and
conditions in the booksellers' agreements with the publisher, as
well as your contract with the publisher.
If you can sort out the legal position, then you should be able to
get in touch with anyone selling the book and ask for it to be
withdrawn. Although if they've bought the books, then they might
expect to be refunded.
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| Fri, Dec 30 2011 12:29pm GMT 10 |

Tony
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I see from the links that you are an economist whose hobby is
cosmology, the subject of your books. I don't know if you have come
across the writings of a neighbour of mine, Robert Beck, who is a
retired town planner whose hobby is cosmology. He, too, has many
thoughts about a Theory of Everything, drawing much on String
Theory and, in particular on Spin. I'm not in any way endorsing his
work, but if it might be of interest to you he has a website
here:
http://www.einsteins-revolution.com/index.html .
I believe he discusses his theories fully in Chapter 17 of his
autobiography, which is on the site.
I hope Emma's advice can help you to sort out the problems with
your own book.
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| Fri, Dec 30 2011 05:19pm GMT 11 |

winged hippopo
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| Fri, Dec 30 2011 05:47pm GMT 12 |

winged hippopo
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Sorry, missed you saying that you've asked the Society of Authors
and they can't help.
It sounds to me as if you need to get in touch with the
liquidator and find out what's going on. Is the company still
being run by someone, or has it ceased trading?
If the Society of Authors can't help directly, can they put you
onto a lawyer with experience of publishing contracts? It is a
genuinely difficult position, and would depend on the terms and
conditions in the booksellers' agreements with the publisher, as
well as your contract with the publisher.
If you can sort out the legal position, then you should be able
to get in touch with anyone selling the book and ask for it to be
withdrawn. Although if they've bought the books, then they might
expect to be refunded.
Thank you for your advices. As to liquidator
(it refers to my first book) I don't know if I can terminate
agreement with them. The publisher ceased
trading.
As to my second book, the Internet
booksellers are changing and in addition to that it's practically
impossible to get in touch with them if you don't place an order.
If you are happy enough and manage to contact them you will be
happy again to receive any answer. I'll have to contact the SoA
regarding legal steps, however it seems rather costly. I tried
the way “no win no fee” lawyers but they ignored my
correspondece.
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| Fri, Dec 30 2011 05:54pm GMT 13 |

winged hippopo
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I see from the links that you are an economist whose hobby is
cosmology, the subject of your books. I don't know if you have
come across the writings of a neighbour of mine, Robert Beck, who
is a retired town planner whose hobby is cosmology. He, too, has
many thoughts about a Theory of Everything, drawing much on
String Theory and, in particular on Spin. I'm not in any way
endorsing his work, but if it might be of interest to you he has
a website here:
http://www.einsteins-revolution.com/index.html .
I believe he discusses his theories fully in Chapter 17 of his
autobiography, which is on the site.
I hope Emma's advice can help you to sort out the problems with
your own book.
Thank you for your information. I will no doubt familiarize with
the linked website.
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