| Fri, Feb 3 2012 08:11am GMT 1 |

Spangles
752 Posts
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Wow, Steve! The new version is a dramatic improvement. I can
actually smell the place now. (It's not a very nice smell, is it?)
Good for you!
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| Fri, Feb 3 2012 09:59am GMT 2 |

Captain Morgan
149 Posts
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They called you the ‘Ents Man.’? They called me ‘the posh cock on
the microphone who gives us free goon.’ And when I was transferred
to Melbourne, I got the same there…
I’m astonished you remember anyone you met – maybe it was just me
who got unlimited free VB 7-nights-a-week…
P.S. Superb re-write.
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| Fri, Feb 3 2012 11:17am GMT 3 |

Steve
706 Posts
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Emma & Debi - simply: thank you. To be able to turn that
opening around in a couple of hours (including reading all the
notes here) is a combination of your detailed guidance above, and
several years of Word Cloud learning experience from so many of you
extraordinary and helpful Cloudfolk.
Spangles & Harry - your additional posts on the general process
both enforce critical points and add to this as a particularly
valuable learning experience for not just me, but for many
others.
Tony, Alanboy & John - good on yer for the early posts of
encouragement and pointers.
Noodledoodle, Jill & Squidge - I can see that this thread has
had quite a few views, but actually posting your thoughts makes a
huge positive difference to the overall value. It's what makes this
whole Cloud thing work so well. Ta.
stephenterry - refreshing honesty and calling it as you see it is
exactly what I wanted and got from you. Having sunshine blown up
one's arse can be encouraging, but I tend to learn and improve much
more by being told it straight.
Alanboy - I chose 'quantity' deliberately as it's a style I use to
enhance humour. Simple word choice suggests one thing, but through
pacing the sentence correctly the (perhaps) unexpected ending is
amplified a little. On the other hand, it can often make the
sentence clunky, jarr and lose its flow. 'Paucity' is a strong
suggestion and a good alternative. Actually, my humour isn't
particularly strong there anyway, so I think your suggestion works
better.
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| Fri, Feb 3 2012 11:27am GMT 4 |

Steve
706 Posts
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Captain Morgan - Nah, I was just Entertainment Manager. And only
for a very short time. Possibly too short to earn a nickname. Some
Austrian (not Australian) nurses did call me the Master of
Disaster, though. Posh cock's might say it's a cheese and wine
evening. The Aussies call it a coon and goon bash.
Side Bar or Scu Bar?
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| Fri, Feb 3 2012 09:23pm GMT 5 |

Captain Morgan
149 Posts
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Sidebar, definitely! All Scubar had going for it was the crab
racing...
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| Fri, Feb 3 2012 09:50pm GMT 6 |

Debi
727 Posts
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The great thing about the re-write is that it is all yours, Steve!
You posted the extract and you received feedback, some of which was
very specific, some more general. But the end result is pure
unadulterated Steve; your story written in your voice. So you've
actually provided us with the perfect example of how this kind of
feedback can help to hone your skills and enable you to produce
something that is quintessentially your own, but so much better
than it was before the re-write.
Right, you and the Cap'n can go back to talking in tongues again
now.
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| Sat, Feb 4 2012 12:01am GMT 7 |

Charlie
135 Posts
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Wow and thanks for the lesson, Steve, Emma and Debi. I have learnt
a lot from this (not just, eww, about the joys of Australian
hostels in the cheap part of town). What a rewrite, Steve, grabbed
me right off the page, I'm still trying to forget the images you
conjured up there.
As for the scalpelmeisters Emma and Debi, it was harsh to see you
dissect the text like that, but you have laid bare its soul and
allowed Steve (and the reader) to connect with it in the revised
version. I know my own writing will be the better for this
experience.
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| Sat, Feb 4 2012 04:56pm GMT 8 |

Steve
706 Posts
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Cheers, Charlie.
Actually, I've made a huge error in the re-write. It was only
10,586 miles from my bed, not 22,814.
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| Sat, Feb 4 2012 05:17pm GMT 9 |

Charlie
135 Posts
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Geography's not my strong suit. In my head 10,586 miles = other
side of the world anyway, so I don't care.
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| Mon, Feb 6 2012 10:27am GMT 10 |

EmmaD
1997 Posts
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"It was only 10,586 miles from my bed, not 22,814."
Well it might get you drummed out of the Royal Geographical
Society, but not too many readers are going to trip up on it!
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| Mon, Feb 6 2012 10:40am GMT 11 |

stephenterry
1882 Posts
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Maybe if you took the scenic route...
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| Mon, Feb 27 2012 06:35pm GMT 12 |

Pj
41 Posts
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Thans for letting us see this process Steve. The improvement in
your edit is amazing, it really came to life
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| Mon, Feb 27 2012 07:56pm GMT 13 |

Steve
706 Posts
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Cheers, Pj - it's good to see that folks like you are still looking
at this and that there could be ongoing value to others.
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