Another blog about sex writing.

Published by: Tenacityflux on 15th Jun 2011 | View all blogs by Tenacityflux
 

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Writing about sex is a thorny issue. Even talking about it can be, especialy in front of the vicar. My husband can't read the scenes I write of an adult nature, because he says he fears it would give him an inite into my psyce he might not want. Something might re-surface at a important moment, and bother him. He also slightly feels that I am mentaly cheating on him, if it's not about him, even though I explain neither is the female involved me ( I have yet to write a gay male love scene.) He knows this is wrong, but, like I say, it's an imotive issue. Maybe he's also terrfied that it won't be an aspect of me he recognises, but an aspect of him.

 

So often lumped in with violence in causing a censer reach for his pen or the reader to skim rapidly past - so hard to handle. Much of it is cringe worthy at best, laughable at worse. I am note sure if I have read anything I have found truly offensive in content, but I have often questioned the validity of it’s inclusion. Odd really, seeing as much of the road to publication involves removing prose like a demented woodpecker, sometimes one dreads to think what was in the original.

 

In most books, unless the sex is especially relevant to the plot, I would always go for the less, or indeed none, is more approach – along the lines of ‘They made love all night and slept until morning.’ That says it all really, who needs more? Who needs blow by blow stuff, if the point is not what they do, but that they do it together?

 

Almost the same approach for me, is preferred if the type of sex engaged in is especially unpleasant or violent. It’s a real toughie – if one writes about sexual monsters, does one really want to dwell overly on the manner of their monstrosity? There is, I regret to say, a ‘trade’ in sex offenders wings of prisons, in the ‘misery lit’ genre, where heartrending tales of abuse are read for titillation. An author always has to be aware of this danger – and as, with so many films, what truly shocks it not the act, but the aftermath – and although there probably needs to be some nuts and blots description, it’s such a thin line between narrative and prurience. So much more power in one deadly sentence, than three paragraphs which are barely readable.

 

Of course, some books need sex, like some Sunday afternoons when the kids are out; and then you’ve just got to get it right. My only musings on this are very personal – I detest metaphor and slimily at these times – that entire ‘blossoming flower, tumescent member’ type rubbish, not for me at all. Crashing waves, rising ecstasy, trembling hands – really, that will make me skim read far quicker than three good expletives. Let’s call a spade a spade shall we, and remember, this sometimes is the nearest we come to animals, and is glorious because of that.

 

Everyone’s experience is so different, yet ultimately the same, getting it right is hard. Writing which makes you feel like you are seeing real people in a physical exchange, is skilful; and the skill, as ever, comes in understanding why it scene is there, and making it work for you as much as a car chase. Always, always, always – if in doubt, leave it out. If it’s for your own pleasure…that’s fine, but don’t expect me to read it, I got my own thanks!

 

And should it be erotic? Sure it should, if it’s meant to be, just like a comedy scene should make you laugh, and a murder should make you gasp. And ultimately, they key to that, as with all good writing, must be to make sure that your characters are real, and that your reader is in their heads, swept along for the ride. However, erm, you do it?

Comments

33 Comments

  • Mcallan
    by Mcallan 11 months ago
    Very true TF. I have never included a sex scene in any of my stories (until my latest offering on the webcam thingy)...simply because it would not be relevant and done purely for the sake of it. They are also tricky to write! I am with you on the crashing wave thing too, partly because the sand gets everywhere..;)
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 11 months ago
    I don't mind writing sex scenes- but I hate anything cheesy. I also hate references to body parts that are either vulgar or twee- so the challenge is to write something that is neither. I managed to skim over a sex scene in my last story because it's aimed at young adults but I have written a few in short stories. My husband will read them with a raised eyebrow then ask ''You let other people read this?''
  • Alanboy
    by Alanboy 11 months ago
    I'm going to write more sex scenes, just because it is a challenge. A good sex scene should knock your socks off, but I suspect a lot skim them anyway, whether they are good, bad or indifferent.
  • Tenacityflux
    by Tenacityflux 11 months ago
    It is a great challenge, I have written a few from a male perspective, not any good enough to share - that's a hard one, but a great challenge. Which Greek mythological character spent half his life as a man, and half as a woman, and when asked, decided that woman have better sex than men, and got killed for his verdict? Interesting result though!
  • AlanP
    by AlanP 11 months ago
    Alanboy, it's not the socks that should come off. You're doing it wrong mate :)

    Anyway, risky business. May I refer you all to:

    http://www.literaryreview.co.uk/badsex.html
  • AlanP
    by AlanP 11 months ago
    I don't know the answer to your question Tenacity, neither does a quick Google. Another interesting point though is the significant number of mythological women who employ their sexual attraction to entice men to their death, allied to the large number of men perfectly willing to follow their John Thomas to a sticky end:- as it were.

    At least I hope it's all mythological.
  • Tenacityflux
    by Tenacityflux 11 months ago
    Nope, that, in my experience, is just the way it is, for a lot of us poor mortals! Though I think the socks should always come off. It's another cruel irony about sex - imagine a woman wearing nothing but her stockings....now think of a man in nothing but socks. Trust me, the socks should pretty much come off first chaps!
  • AlanP
    by AlanP 11 months ago
    Indeed, the early removal of socks is to be desired. Sorry. Unclear. There's usually a bit more to it than that, if memory serves :)

    I really don't think that the stockings metaphor should be explored chaps. We are in a pre watershed timeslot here. Let us simply imagine.
  • Mcallan
    by Mcallan 11 months ago
    Sorry...still have the image of a woman clad only in stickings....
    ps...not wearing any socks today!
  • trafalgar
    by trafalgar 11 months ago
    Stickings eh? What, covered in post-it notes, you mean?
  • Tenacityflux
    by Tenacityflux 11 months ago
    Stickings? I thought I might have done my usual type o blunders and ruined my joke - but I did put stockings didn't I? Ha ha - In a previous life I was a burlesque dance, and I did a routine with post-it-notes, to the Dolly Parton classic 'Nine to five' - I'll leave it to your imagination as to where I stuck 'em!
  • AlanP
    by AlanP 11 months ago
    I like to think that Mac's hand was shaking when he made his entry. Oh sh**. You know what I mean.
  • Mcallan
    by Mcallan 11 months ago
    Now look...the 'i' is right next to the bloody 'o'...and I have thick fingers!...and my hand may have been shaking!
  • AlanP
    by AlanP 11 months ago
    :D :D :D :D
  • Noodledoodle
    by Noodledoodle 11 months ago
    Ho ho AlanP! Getting back to the subject in hand!!! (Mac) I find sex either on paper or film a pretty tricky one - don't know why but I do. I find reading about it pointless - the lead up excellent, yes - but the details? No. I don't get that it adds to the story any, same with film. I can't help but imagine they have run out of plot so fill it in with a sex scene. At the same time some people do like it, so is it in there to provide something for everyone? TFX - you have had a colourful past! ;-)
  • Mcallan
    by Mcallan 11 months ago
    See, you make one teeny typo.......;)
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 11 months ago
    Ah sex scenes in films- that depends entirely on who you are with when you are watching the film. I took my Gran to see bridget Jones' Diary and found myself cringing at the rude bits even though they are extremly mild, equally I'm glad I wasn't with my mum when I saw The Black Swan.
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 11 months ago
    Giggling at 'stickings' btw. :D
  • Tenacityflux
    by Tenacityflux 11 months ago
    I never thought it was, until it gets pointed out to me! On the writing subject, I can get with a sex scene, if the point is that the sex is so good, that it is the source of desire, thus motivating the characters; or that it is terrible and so motivates the book to deal with the aftermath - and it can be a devise when one character wishes to persuade another into a course of action - but in all cases I think three paragraphs of actual action is always enough. The key is the three pages of delicate, sensual build up first - which if it's good enough, then you could probably cover the rest in one sentence and still leave the reader panting!
  • Autumn
    by Autumn 11 months ago
    Interesting blog TF. I'm with Geri on the body parts - most of the names used for the female anatomy are either too crude to say (or even found offensive) and at the other end of the scale they are largely incomprehensible. Male parts are better :-O at least being powerful, strong, hard, etc.

    Fortunately, modern commercial women's fiction writers, like Adele Parks for example, tend to strike a good balance between calling a spade a spade, but leaving enough to the imagination that it caters for a wide, erm, taste?

    Writing a realistically physical and vocal sex scene, which is also erotic to the reader is difficult due to the nature of the beast and the dialogue will always look cheesy unless the mood is set appropriately.
  • Tenacityflux
    by Tenacityflux 11 months ago
    Very true - I have never found a really good word for lady parts, not going to go into that further here, but it is a problem; I think one can imply the destination without describing the station!
  • AlanP
    by AlanP 11 months ago
    Noodles, I am having much more trouble than you on the post it front. I am in my office, supposedly working. In the drawer to my right I have some post it blocks. Some are large, some are rather small. I am totally pre occupied with trying to decide which are the ones TFX would have used.

    But on the subject - It is tricky. Really I don't much do it. Write about it, that is. Actually... no, let's not go there. I think it should be in the mind. I think the door should close and either the involved couple are in raptures later that day (or the next), they are having trouble walking or he is humiliated and she is understanding, or other variants to suit. I think the actual event is entirely personal and I can't find any way to express it sensibly. I put up a link to the Bad Sex Awards and I recommend that anyone contemplating writing a graphic sex scene should read the short list, ten extracts are available. Buttock clenchingly bad stuff.

    I put up one of my short stories as a blog on this subject some long time ago, which epitomises my approach, oddly - or just odd.

    http://writing-community.writersworkshop.co.uk/magazine/read/i-dont-do-sex_973.html
  • AlanP
    by AlanP 11 months ago
    Anyone remember the euphemism competition about six months ago. I still can't handle Geri's puppies.
  • Tenacityflux
    by Tenacityflux 11 months ago
    Both! And a large desk fan!

    One does wonder that a good editor might have flagged up sex writing that bad! I can recall dear old Alan Titchmarsh, writing how his two characters fell into bed together in the heat of passion, and 'a full five minuets later.' Were lying back satisfied. One feels this does not bode well for Mrs Titchmarsh.
  • AlanP
    by AlanP 11 months ago
    I am now looking askance at my desk fan.
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 11 months ago
    I was just about to log off and put the rice on for dinner when I saw my puppies getting a mention. Is it me or is it really hot and sticky today..there's something in the air I think ;D
  • curlykats
    by curlykats 11 months ago
    This is a great blog! Poor Mrs Titchmarsh! I agree that less is more, and there's lots of bad sex scenes out there. And the issue you mentioned at first with your husband resonated with me, TFX. I'm always worried that if I write in too much detail people will think I'm writing about my own experiences. And what will my mum say??
  • AlanP
    by AlanP 11 months ago
    I think that for many writers practising safe sex may mean using a pseudonym.
  • Noodledoodle
    by Noodledoodle 11 months ago
    Tfx I know its dfficult to find an acceptable word for a woman's anatomy, but when it comes to a man's I have once read it as being referred to a a 'doodle' which would make my handle 'Noodle Willy!'
    Mac you weren't going to get away with that one! This has inspired me tfx - I might try to write a sex scene, but I would have to close my eyes and see what appears on the page when I have finished cringeing!! ;-)
  • MinxieAD
    by MinxieAD 11 months ago
    I'm never going to look at post its in the same away again! Or any kind of stickings!

    I think a lot of sex scenes aren't necessary to the plot, so if included should be well written at least. It's so much easier writing about someone being murdered? I wonder why that is? Maybe we shy away from it in case we get it all wrong? I've never actually written one so am not sure if it would sound stupid rather than sexy?
  • Tenacityflux
    by Tenacityflux 11 months ago
    Try writing an erotic scene where no sex actually happens, that's always a good one - all about implication!
  • Mighty Jock
    by Mighty Jock 11 months ago
    You know, I have written a short novel (55k) that is an erotic fantasy based around a couple who discover that he likes to be dominated. But i'm too frightened to send it out in case it got published before my other work! It's not that i really think there is anything wrong with writing erotic fiction, loads of big names have done it, but i just want to be published for a solid main stream work first! then i'm gonna unleash my gutter like mind of a sailor onto society!!! ;-)
  • Tenacityflux
    by Tenacityflux 11 months ago
    Nom de'geurre? Or, Nom d'amore, perhaps? Tfx
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