Are you writing Science Fiction but to embarrassed to admit it?

Published by: MarcusArt on 23rd Mar 2009 | View all blogs by MarcusArt

I attended the Writer's Workshop course for beginners writing a novel. It was brilliant. It was also the first time I realised that: a. I was one of three chaps and fifteen women on the course – no complaints; b. the only writer to be working in the SF genre on the course.

So what?

Indeed. But it seems to me that there's always been a certain stigma attached to SF. The problem? Geekness: socially dysfunctional nerds who dream of robot men from Mars rescuing the galactic princess from the evil sex-mad beast lord from ...whatever. Is that what you're thinking?

Maybe.

Well who else is writing SF? An amazing array of men and women. The breadth and depth of the genre is equally broad. From Mary Shelley's ‘Frankenstein’ to Ian M Banks  'Matter'. Covering, evolution, sex, the mind, the end of the world, a new world, the end of a universe, a new form of life, machines alive, computers taking over the world, and all the grass dying. Some amazing things.

It seems to me that the genre is often miss-treated, and miss-understood. For example, War of the Worlds by H.G. Well's has been made into films and television series depicting metal Martians taking over Earth and dropping dead at the last minute because of bacteria. That's it right? No quite. Herbert George Wells was a visionary writer, a scientist and a humanist not a MCcArthyist. His aim was not to provide a thin veil to disguise a dislike for another culture or social order (As with the 1953 film version). It was to illustrate what could happen to mankind in the far future - would we be like the Martians. His other goal, to explore how late Victorian society at the time would, in his view, fall apart rapidly, loosing the social morals at the time.

Science fact or fiction, the distortion of ideas, timelines and histories, what if’s and new ideas are all very useful tools to handle difficult social issues, taboos and explore ‘blue sky’ thinking.

Challenge everything.

So what's everyone's view on Science Fiction then...?

Comments

23 Comments

  • Aiyla
    by Aiyla 3 years ago
    evening Mr Flibble,

    the only SF i have read (and I hope this is SF ) is Ice People by Rene Barjavel and I must say I loved that. I would happily read more of that sort but i find it hard to choose a SF book.

    Aiyla
  • MarcusArt
    by MarcusArt 3 years ago
    Would you be able to say why you find hard choosing SF?
  • Aiyla
    by Aiyla 3 years ago
    Honestly I don't think I will be able to explain clearly.
    You see I don't really like fantasy stories and the covers are often very fantasy looking, you know with em....wierd creature and unrealistic things and that puts me off. Whereas the Ice People was actually romantic and.....sorry I can't really say. I guess I should read more. What would you recommend ?
  • MarcusArt
    by MarcusArt 3 years ago
    Interesting. This shows how important book jackets are. Fantasy is a genre more akin to Lord of the Rings as far as I would consider. I don't know Ice People. If you are looking for stories that concentrate on people I would suggest Ian M Banks. Take your pick, I started with 'The Use of Weapos'. Philip K. Dick wrote a very good novel dealing with identity and addiction call Scanner Darkly. Or for romance try Anne Mcafre - the Crystal Singer books. If you are looking for typical Fantasy I would suggest Steven Gemmel. There is a very prolific author called Stephen Donaldson, but he can be heavy going. As a newbie to Sf I would still reccomend H.G. Wells - the Time Machine. Beware the end. Brian Aldis is also very different to the usual stereotype.
  • Aiyla
    by Aiyla 3 years ago
    Thanks. I'll look out for one of them.
  • Lemoncorkscrew
    by Lemoncorkscrew 3 years ago
    I loved it until it was hijacked by clownish tripe like Dr Who - I questioned the Dahleks inability to climb stairs early on. The problem with SciFi - apart from its nerd associations - see Startrek Conventions - Learn Klingon DVDs - is that the good stuff by Philip K Dick, Jack Vance and the lovely old yellow jacket Gollancz in the libraries never gets a look in until Hollywood get hold of it. The names get changed, indeed the story (I am Legend - Total Recall - Bladerunner) I defy anyone to say Aliens or Pitch Black are not exciting. The best unputdownable book I read last was Human Traces by Seb Faulkes while I am struggling with the chattiness of Matter. It's a matter of taste I suppose but the dilemma of a Captain in a sea storm or a solar storm is the same. There are some very good literary writing tips on SciFi websites which pay homage to the general rules we all read about.
  • MarcusArt
    by MarcusArt 3 years ago
    Hollywood is unable to create a filmic representation of a classic SF story. Why? Because of the money men who are now the producers, studios view of audiences and the aversion to risk. Films like 2001, Metropolis, Blade Runner, the Shape of things to Come, The original Solaris, their likes will probably not be seen again for at least ten years if every. You need to have a Lucas-like budget and the talent of the Directorial talents of David Lean. Fat chance.
    SF is out of fashion at the moment. Films like the Matrix made Cyber Punk fashionable. The problem is films like Watchmen, whatever you think about it have just made the studios think that anything that can be considered controversial is not worth doing because of the box office returns. It's self defeating though. You pump out crap and that's what your audience will grow up to expect. We have to break the cycle somehow.
  • Ancient Woodland
    by Ancient Woodland 3 years ago
    I think that good sci-fi is an extrapolation of science today. Something you can see the roots of and understand clearly where it has come from. It is simply a glimpse of that tomorrow, whether that day is 10 years in the future or 10,000,000 makes no odds.

    I do worry that the genre inspires images of geeks dressed as Klingons at conventions and it does seem to attract some strange people. But then again so does normal fiction - the just don't dress up as klingon's, they have murder mystery weekends or some similar, perfectly acceptable event that does not degrade them to geek status.

    Worse for me - I also read and write fantasy - now between both genres (which seem to be treated as one these days - I can't wrap my head around that) I am considered by the average man in the street as positively weird and sould go "get a life" as afst as I can. Yet joe blogs will turn out in droves to watch "Alien" or "Terminator" or "The Lord of the Rings" or "Harry Potter does Hermoine over a Squealing Cactus".

    I don't understand others opinions of these genre's but then again, that doesn't really matter to me. What matters is that good sci-fi is as rare as good fantasy - finding a new Ian M. Banks or David Gemmell is almost impossible - there are huge amounts of dross in both genres.

    Hmm - that may have been a small rant - my apologies ;c)

    AW
  • Aonghus Fallon
    by Aonghus Fallon 3 years ago
    For me the term ‘the golden age of science fiction’ does have some validity. Most early sci-fi was an allegory for political, sexual issues – in other words, it addressed current issues through the guise of science fiction. Now it’s target audience is largely kids and teenagers and as a result it has largely lost its relevance. A good example of this case of diminishing returns would be the Star Trek series. The ‘60’s series with Shatner dealt with the Vietnam War, racism and so on. Even it’s successor - the ‘80’s’ series tried to deal with similar issues, as well as the usual philisophical issues re self, consciousness, and the nature of reality, while being a little more syrupy - Worf trying to bond with his son, etc. But by the time we get to ‘Voyager’ we have a series that is primarily character-driven and whose sci-fi dimension is essentially a re-hash of ideas already explored in the previous series. I’m equally pessmistic about the literary end of the genre. Recently I tried reading a few science fiction books after a lapse of around fifteen years. What struck me was how little the format had changed and how the writers involved seemed to be trapped in some sort of eternal adolescence. I’m afraid I’d have to cite Banks as a case in point.
  • MarcusArt
    by MarcusArt 3 years ago
    Aonghus - I know what you mean about Banks. He can be very juvenile in his dancing around sexuality in his novels.

    So it looks like the general opinion is that the genre is lacklustre. There does not seem to be anything out there different. Is that in itself a reflection of society? 'Blade Runner (put aside Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep for a moment) and Neuromancer were very much a reflection on the idea of post modernism. The 90's were post modernist ironic. What do we have now? Nothing? Anything goes? There is, I believe, a lack of cultural, political stimulus. Even the credit crunch and the Banking crisis are poor sources for reflection.

    What are the great challenges that face mankind? The same ones we've always had: environment, food shortages, prices, oil, wars, sex. They are always there for reference. What about thought? Is there anything in the way we as people use our minds? I don't mean telepathy - I'm thinking about how we perceive reality. What would happen if we woke up one day and realised that they way we do things - going to work and having kids and going to work and going to the movies and going shopping oh and going to works. What if we realised that that has absolutely nothing to do with living life?
    Discuss...
  • Aonghus Fallon
    by Aonghus Fallon 3 years ago
    I think these are exactly the kind of questions that need to be asked. I think one reason why there’s been a dwindling lack of interest in the standard space opera is that all evidence is increasingly pointing towards a universe in which we were a million-to-one fluke and which isn’t isn’t teeming with life as originally envisaged. It’s also a universe in which habitable planets (habitable for humans) are extremely rare, even if we were ever likely to create the technology to reach them – which we aren’t. Nobody has any faith in the notion of some intergalactic Empire anymore. So modern science fiction should be expanding on the the more philisophical concerns raised by Philip K. Dick and films like ‘The Matrix’ – what is reality etc? And by extension, the validity of everything we do. That is, to look inwards (life on earth) rather than outwards (life in outer space).
  • Ancient Woodland
    by Ancient Woodland 3 years ago
    Nooooooo! I disagree vehemently that we should be looking inwards rather than outwards. That is the kind of thinking that is prevailing currently and that is precisely the kind of thinking that will keep us locked on this planet until we blow ourselves up or poison ourselves so badly that our race perishes in the way of the dinosaurs (you didn't really buy the whole meteor strike in the Bay of Mexico did you?).
    We MUST get off this planet - in the same way that a child must be born lest the babe die and kill the mother too.
    You ever heard of multiple redundancy? We have none - natural disaster, man-made disaster, plague, pestilence, cosmic radiation - sheesh there are so many ways to kill an entire race of people, we need to get out there, then even a disaster on a planetary scale cannot wipe out the species.
    Space is VAST beyond comprehension, so what if we are a MILLIONS to one chance. There are 300 billion stars in our galaxy and 100 billion galaxy's out there at last count. Millions to one is DAMN GOOD ODDS!!
    Enough capitulation!
    ;c)

    AW
  • MarcusArt
    by MarcusArt 3 years ago
    Woah there kids! I would say we need to look at everything. Question everything. Surley that's the mandate the SF has been give?
  • Aonghus Fallon
    by Aonghus Fallon 3 years ago
    To be honest, I was just thinking about what attracts people to certain genres and why they lose interest. Science Fiction extrapolates from the possible and the probable. Space Opera was at the height of its popularity during the 50's and 60's because the colonisation of space seemed imminent - landing on the moon was seen as just one step in an inevitable process. Now (although Ancient Woodland's optimism does him credit) I can't see faster-than-light technology emerging any time in the near future. But he's right about my attitude - I think by postulating virtual realities I was running away from reality rather than embracing it. That got me thinking about what science fiction I read recently that I felt was trying to address core issues. Kim Stanley Robinson's book 'Forty Signs of Rain' came to mind. It's not bad at all.
  • MarcusArt
    by MarcusArt 3 years ago
    Don't forget that things like ftl are theese days tools of the Sf writer, rather than being the impetus for story. I think that we are stuck for a big techbology- space flight is a reality, time travel - although not a reality in our world, in quantum physics it seems apossibilty. Genetics has been done as have machines that think. Today these themes are more for moving a story along or setting a scene - they cannot hold a ready with their own existance.
  • MarcusArt
    by MarcusArt 3 years ago
    oh I'm sorry for all the typos -I'm in an airport and doing this on my phone.
  • Ancient Woodland
    by Ancient Woodland 3 years ago
    Damn - my last post got lost in the cloud somewhere.

    You guys do sound a little defeatist. Mr. Flibble, you sound as if all possible stories have been written and all technologies explored with nothing left to write a book about. I think we just have to find out where they are lurking and drag them out into the light where we can examine them.

    Aonghus, you seem to think that SF has been dying since the sixties, I would disagree but it does not have the verve that it used to have in the days of Heinlen, Asimov and Clarke et al.

    SF has been down in the dumps recently and I think it has a lot to do with the perceived lack of investment into space technology. I don't know why we are not spending massive amounts of money between this and cold fusion. Together they would solve half the planets problems.

    I've finally managed to find my first draft of a book I wrote about ten years ago called Legacy of the Stars. I'll clean it up and post a chapter or 2 and see what happens.
  • MarcusArt
    by MarcusArt 3 years ago
    No I'm not down in the dumps. I'm the opposite. I'm playing Devil's advocate.
  • MarcusArt
    by MarcusArt 3 years ago
    I would hope that we can start a discussion as to where SF could go. What new frontiers shold we be exploring. What social commentary and Tobbos can we use SF to explore that other genres would either get us into trouble with or perhaps simply put people off or - dare I say it - where can SF take us that general fiction can't?
  • Ancient Woodland
    by Ancient Woodland 3 years ago
    I would like to see sci-fi have a stab at explaining the biggest mystery of all - what's it all about? Where did all this mass, energy and dark matter come from and is there intent behind it? A purpose? If not and our universe is the product of a chance event - are there more? A multiverse of universes? If there were no intent, then could we turn our minds to one? Take control? If there were intent is there a way to communicate with the instigator? What would be our first question?

    etc...
  • MarcusArt
    by MarcusArt 3 years ago
    Does the watch know the watchmaker? Can the ant describe it's environment? Who made God? I am. But what was before? Nothing. What made God become God? Of course if you don't accept God as the maker of everything you are not going to like that one. But what can come from nothing? Nothing. So how come we are here?
  • Ancient Woodland
    by Ancient Woodland 3 years ago
    Aha! There is a presumption in there - "But what can come from nothing? Nothing. So how come we are here?"

    Why are you so sure that there was nothing there before?
  • Lottie
    by Lottie 3 years ago
    i am the conscious universe and so are you. it is whatever you think it is.
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