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Published by: CJ on 23rd Sep 2010 | View all blogs by CJ

Apart from here, I don't blog. I have a blog account on eblogger, but I've never used it. Part of that is laziness, part of that is I'm a nobody, why the hell would anyone be interested in what I have to say any way, but most of it is my role in the lives of a few thousand teenaged lives.

Y'see, I've been reading a lot about how it is good for an aspiring author to have a blog. How it is seen a A Good Thing, because prospective agents can google you and look you up. Problem is, if prospective agents can google you and look you up, so can the thousand kids you have at your school at any one time, too. And that, my dear Cloudies, is NOT A Good Thing.

Kids are strange. They profess to hate school, and a lot of them profess to hate you and your subject (as I said to one girl this week when she said those wonderful words every teacher lives for  - 'I hate this lesson' - I gave the standard reply of 'Well, my work here is done...'), and yet, whether you like it or not, you kind of become a Z list (heh, T list?) celebrity to them. Their curiosity for what you do in your spare time is quite voracious. Even though I use an internet handle (for this very reason, I may add) and don't put my email up, I still get 'Hi miss its Lauren from 9A2 how r u?' messages / emails every now and again, and it worries and infuriates me.

Why? The messages are, on the whole, innocent; even the kids who profess to hate you tend to send nice messages, but each time I receive one, a little piece of me dies, whilst another little piece of me panics. And yet another piece of me gets angry. There are three main reasons. 1) if you interact with kiddies out of school, you are unequivocally and obviously a pervert (even if they sought you out), b) I want a life of my own that is not observed by those I teach and c) get a fucking life! I'm your TEACHER, not some sad wannabe celebrity who craves attention. Go google some other low life who appreciates it!

A couple of years ago, the government wanted to bring in a 'Role Model Charter' for teachers. This basically meant that teachers had to hold themselves up to 'role model' standards of behaviour no matter where they were: at home, down the pub,  in the supermarket - anywhere where they might face their pupils or their parents. This included on the internet, and that is where I got angry.

I draw pictures that, whilst not particularly dodgy, an 11 year old's mum might not appreciate. I write fiction that includes violence and sex. You know why? Because I am an ADULT and therefore I am ALLOWED TO. What I get up to in my spare time is up to me (okay, so if I was caught shooting up heroin on line and then sucking off a donkey, I could understand their concern... but that's not what I am talking about here. I think anyone in any job would be in trouble if they were caught doing that on line!), but I consider myself a pretty decent person - why shouldn't I be allowed to post my drawings up online and share them, or post up my writing for critique without the fear of being hauled into the Head's office on Monday morning?

  Last year, we even had 2 cases of kids pretending to be teachers on Farcebook so they could stir and cause trouble. And cause trouble they did. They meticulously found out information about those teachers (from the internet, naturally), set up accounts in their names and then, casually as you like, systematically went around talking to other teachers about school, about their opinions of other teachers and pupils, about what they thought of the Head... things that, worryingly, could get them sacked. And that was their purpose. To harm teacher's careers as much as possible.

The kids involved were expelled, but despite the teachers' identities they stole wanting to press charges, the police were never involved. One of those teachers - a dedicated senior member of staff - left last summer, because she was so sick of it all. As far as I know, she isn't teaching any more. Our profession has lost an excellent teacher because two stupid kids thought it was fun to spy on her and ruin her life.

Then there was the staff Christmas party. The photos were hidden under 'friends only' and only showed us having a laugh and a drink. But kids got hold of them... et voila, we're all hauled into a meeting about not posting photos on line. Another teacher got hauled over the coals for posting 'inappropriate pictures' of herself after a parental complaint...  of her in her bikini on holiday. Me and my friend (another English teacher) were involved in a charity 'Teacher Strictly Come Dancing), where we moshed to Faith No More and the Boo Ya Tribe's 'Another Body Murdered' as our dance - the first time we knew it had ended up on You Tube was when the Press called the Head to ask what was going on.

It's a serious problem for us. We're getting told all the time about our 'responsibilities' when it comes to our charges and our private lives... but what about the kids? Isn't it about time someone turned round to them and said ' just pack it in'? My blood runs cold each time one comes up to me and says 'aww, that photo of Lucy was well cute'... excuse me? Are you stalking me or something? STAY OUT OF MY LIFE! I don't google you (and if I did, I'd probably be accused of being some kind of pervert), so don't google me! What is your fascination with me, any way? It's creepy!

So... sorry, Mr / Ms Agent - I am afraid that any potential google searches for my online activity are going to be seriously curtailed, because I'd have to be some kind of masochist to write an open blog right now...

Comments

33 Comments

  • mike
    by mike 1 year ago
    Dear Mistress Elysia,
    Your blog is very sad - especially about the kids with evil intent. Kids have too much power now. If they misbehave, they cannot, now, be thrown out of a public library.
  • maryluv
    by maryluv 1 year ago
    Oh Ely - how my heart bleeds for you! It is true that when you work in the public eye you can end up feeling that you live there too. I'm very cautious about posting too much info online for that very reason. And it also occurred to me that if my novel ever gets published, do I want someone digging up old comments of mine, using them out of context and hanging me with my own words! Oh the irony of being a writer, then.
  • maryluv
    by maryluv 1 year ago
    Ps - I have a journalist friend who used to write freelance articles for some of the trash mags, and she loved to trawl through the internet to pull up crap about people and use it as a basis for her articles. Money for old rope, to her.
  • CJ
    by CJ 1 year ago
    *gives the Cloud a stern look* That's the third message you've eaten in 2 days, Mr... I am NOT IMPRESSED!

    Bah! Response eaten, so answer somewhat shortened. Basically - mike - kids have the power, but not the maturity to realise that with that power comes responsibility. I lost count the amount of fights I broke up (one very physical) over things that had been said over Farcebook. What makes me laugh even more is there is a site online called I hate my teacher with photos of teachers (without their permission), giving details of where they work, who they are etc... and despite our unions trying to get it shut, no one is willing to do so. Now, if teachers had a page called I hate my pupil, it would be another matter...

    moonbeam - It's becoming more of a problem as time goes on. Prospective employers are googling candidates and finding out about them before interview, colleges the same about their pupils - it's worrying. What is more worrying is how the kids don't seem to realise that this behaviour is immortalised in virtual stone - they're up there, effing and blinding over the net, posting pictures of themselves up in their underwear (and worse) - what happens in 5 years time when they've grown up a bit and want a job, but it is then the norm to google your interviewees and they find that lot? They're setting themselves up for a big fall, I fear...
  • Bren
    by Bren 1 year ago
    Elysia - that is a difficult problem. I would hate to find a utube film of me that I did not have control over. Some kids can be cruel too.

    However, my husband had a totally different outlook. (He was, a head of department and until recently, a supply teacher at schools with hard to discipline kids.) We taught kids who had been expelled too and even brought them to our home. We taught them to drive, took them to the supermarket, where they teased us and managed to get us laughing into the photo booth, we went bowling, to France, and visited prisons. We had twelve at a time. They kept in touch for years. Their energy can be overpowering. It was at times as if tey were sucking blood as they will if given a yard....but also exhilerating.
    The issue of your website is different - I can see why you are against the idea.
    It is a pity that these things are not addressed and the kids have to talk about them - with feeling.
    I am old fashioned and expected the kids in my groups to shake hands when they greeted me, if I respected them they learn to respect themselves and others. Obviously not all kids.
    A friend was here yesterday talking about his daughter and the images she had posted on Facebook, she did not understand his concern - children seem to find it hard to separate the media life from the real world which is understandable as they are immersed in it all the time. They are too young and inexperienced to understand the ramifications of what they see as harmless fun. Oh I see you have said that.
    wonder where it will lead eventually. Facebook and other sites have given kids a sense of power. They have a lot to answer for. I think they take away power and lead to lots of unhappiness - it is another area that chidren have to compete in.
    You, Elysia are protected by you keen mind and position. Hopefully, and if ever anything untoward happens your colleagues would know and trust and support you.
    The kids will be ace at reading body language you are not even aware of.
  • Liss
    by Liss 1 year ago
    This sucks, it's the curse of being a teacher I suppose. My aunty is a deputy head and kids suck.

    The only thing I would suggest would be to do exactly what you're doing - using a completely different name with no photos of yourself. You're safe on the Cloud but things like facebook (not sure if you're on it) cause a whole world of problems, and that is why I stay well away from it. We think that because we aren't famous that people won't stalk us, but there are always people to stalk you..... xxxxx
  • Wrathnar the Unreasonable
    Bring back the good old-fashioned clip round the ear'ole!
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 1 year ago
    I share your concerns, Ely, which is why there are not photos of me (that I know of) and no names. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it's impossible to stuff it back in. It is worrying thought, how much info we can give away to someone determined to track us down. Because we're all friendly here, it's tempting to be lulled into a false sense of security - but as johno one said, "not everyone on the internet is my friend". I'm still uneasy about public access to this site, although I see that members-only doesn't really protect us either.
    As for children? I feel we've given away far too much power. While this may have been originally to protect the few (I hope) in bad situations, it's gone too far the other way so that many think they're entitled, invulnerable and whatever they do will be someone-else's-fault. And they're growing up into adults with that view too. Power without responsibility is a dangerous thing.
  • Chocoholic
    by Chocoholic 1 year ago
    I think you are already some kind of masochist for being a teacher at all, Ely. x
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 1 year ago
    I hasten to add that there are fine, upstanding young people too, thank goodness. But the things that you describe are so plain wrong, that I am exasperated they still happen, with no consequences for the perpetrators.
  • mike
    by mike 1 year ago
    Quite a few of the library staff are university students - and earlier ages too - Saturday staff who stay on and do extra hours while studying. They are all pleasant and friendly. Not all children are ['spawn of the devil'
    Has the 'Internet' really 'empowered' people? I wonder? There is a site for people who wish to detach themselves from the digital world but I cannot find it now! ( It was mentioned on the BBC news web site last week)
  • Wrathnar the Unreasonable
    "There is a site for people who wish to detach themselves from the digital world but I cannot find it now!" Sounds like it was a success, then!
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 1 year ago
    That's really funny!
  • Gels
    by Gels 1 year ago
    The kids can't all be bad, can they!!!??? I have walked around the shops with my mum and there have been a few times when she has pulled at my arm and hidden behind a pillar and whispered kids from the school, and I say 'oh..okay then, well I will be over here when you are ready'

    Never knew it was so bad, but then who needs a reference when you have google!!!!
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 1 year ago
    I give up- cloud ate comments :-(
  • CJ
    by CJ 1 year ago
    Funny thing is, kids on the whole are fine. I get on well with my pupils and generally like them (there are a few rotten apples the spoil the fun, but on the whole, they're great). But that doesn't mean I like them prying into my life. It's not like they stumbled across me - I don't have Farcebook, nor Myspace, Livejournal or Bebo - just here and DeviantART (which I haven't been to in over a year). And yet, the still find me, which worries me because it means they're really trying. It's not just a casual dalliance - they go out of their way to look for teachers online. Now, turn that the other way around... there would be a (quite right) public outcry. But no. They're kids. They don't know better. It's harmless.

    Most of the time - yes, it is harmless. But sometimes, it isn't. I actually think places like Farcebook should be 18+. I don't like the idea of my 11 year olds (because no-one seems to enforce COPPA, and most of the time they lie anyway) sticking up their personal details for all to see. I've had to pull Year 10s (that's 14-15 years old) aside and tell them that, rather than the pretty 17 year old boy they are chatting to over a photograph of them in their bra and pants, it's probably a 50 year old truck driver called Derek (no offence to any 50 year old truck drivers called Derek intended, but you get my point). And it worries me.
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 1 year ago
    We've had a debate on here about youngsters- so I won't re-iterate my feelings on the subject.

    My best mate is a teacher, and it really screws up her social life sometimes. if we go out to the pub- she'll always bump into one of the parents- she teaches age 6-7. Then in the holidays, if we take our kids to the park- cinema etc she will always meet a pupil or two- and the lil darlings will follow us around while she gets more and more stressed.

    I feel really sorry for you guys, because teaching must be just about the most stressful of jobs so you just wanna switch off at the end of the day and be able to relax at weekend and holidays. i have another friend who teaches 18 yr old and for that reason she refused to get a FB account. I'm losing faith in the site as it is due to the amount of children who are now on there. I'm also deleting lots of pics because I'm worried now who's looking at them.
  • CJ
    by CJ 1 year ago
    The parent issue is a real problem sometimes - we've been told to try not to 'engage with parents' when we are out, but it happens. I've had a few tense times when I see a kid I've given a DT to out with their mum on a weekend - it's obvious the kid has pointed me out and said 'that's the evil bitch who punished me', and since nowadays their little darlings are never to blame, it can be really awkward. Either that, or they want an impromptu parent's evening, right there in the middle of the vegetable aisle - I just want to wear a badge that says 'Hi! Yes, I am your kid's teacher, but I'm not at work right now, so would you kindly LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE?' Thank you!'. Saying hello is fine. Stopping me and introducing yourself - don't mind at all. I just don't want to talk to you about their homework / detention policy / what level they are are / what coursework they are doing. I just want broccoli. And maybe some carrots. Okay?

    At one point, the government even went as far as saying that teachers shouldn't go out and get drunk, just in case they come across parents and end up in an 'altercation'... uh, excuse me? Best one, though, happened to my mate - she went out, picked this woman up, went back to her place... and then woke up to find that the woman's daughter was one of our year 8s (she didn't teach her, and so didn't know the parent). So maybe there is something in this! XD
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Typed a long response and it flippin' disappeared!!
    Anyway, set up a blog using a pseudonym, create an email account with same pseaudonym and noone need know who you actually are. If agents contact you you can give them real details but work under pseudonym - secret identity intact. Many, many authors and bloggers do this and maintain their privacy. Problem solved :) You need to get your name out there and showcase your work and blogging is probably the best platform for that. I'm just beginning to do it & learning as i'm going along - if you need any help or advice sweety, i'd be happy to help where I can but i'm no expert.
    I had to come off facebook partly for this reason. My sons friends were sending me friend requests and printing bikini pics off and handing them round at school! My little brother used to sell said pictures at his school!!!
  • Skylark
    by Skylark 1 year ago
    I understand everything you have said Ely. Even though I teach primary, and they are generally little darlings rather than little devils, I worry about my internet presence. That's one of the reasons I prefer to remain anonymous on the forums I belong to and on Facebook I'm paranoid about regularly checking my privacy settings. I work about 20 mins from where I live so there are occasions when I come across pupils out of school and I also hate it. Generally I avoid the places where it would be particularly awkward - e.g. the swimming pool near my school is also one of the ones closest to my house but I never never go swimming there, choosing the pools in the opposite direction to my school instead. Having said that, I really love a particular park in the town near my school. I try to only go there in term-time during the week but did go there a few times during the holidays and found myself in the tricky situation of trying to find a discreet corner to breastfeed my son. I have no problem with public breastfeeding and I've become an expert at the judicious use of a muslin to aid my discretion but it still felt totally inappropriate to be doing it if there was a possibility of my pupils seeing me. And on the subject of what our children put on the web, I agree with all comments above. My 17-year old niece puts stuff on facebook that I really worry about and she has over 300 "friends" which I just don't think is possible. I think I have about 50 and some of them are mere acquaintances who have very limited access to my profile.
  • Chocoholic
    by Chocoholic 1 year ago
    Where I live there is only one secondary school in the area (the north of the island) with 1000 pupils, all the kids in the town and surrounding area all go to the same school and there are only two supermarkets in the town. It's a fact of life that anywhere you go you will bump into somebody you know. There was an incident a while ago of a few kids who made some typical teenage but unacceptable remarks about a teacher who was pregnant on Facebook. The combination of Facebook and a small community was like a chain reaction. The head got to hear of it in hours, and it was immediately stamped upon. The kids involved all got suspended for bullying.
  • Fabrizio
    by Fabrizio 1 year ago
    Makes you wish you had a mask and a cape to wear in school so you can protect your secret identity.
  • Steve
    by Steve 1 year ago
    My Dad was a teacher, and I taught for a while when I lived in Hong Kong. There it was perfect: the kids wanted to learn; they were eager to be in class; and they were perfectly well behaved. But to come back to the UK and teach? I just didn't have the minerals. Teaching is, I think, the most important job in any society. And it sickens me that it has become such a thankless task. Teacher's rights have been eroded, whilst children (and parents) can do and say what they like, and behave in almost any way they want without any repercussions. I do not see this continued pathway as healthy for any culture.

    More power back to teachers. More disciplinary measures allowed in the classroom once again. Untie the hands that guide our young (I don't mean just to clip 'em round the ear). And stop piling more responsibility onto teachers to be superhuman - let them just teach without also having to be police without handcuffs, nurses without medicine, social workers without powers to intervene...
  • Chocoholic
    by Chocoholic 1 year ago
    Come to my island all you lovely Cloudy teachers. We are always in need of quality teachers here. Island life is not for everyone, so it can be difficult to recruit. It's a great place to bring up children, low crime, no gangs, local bobby can keep a watchful eye on everything. Yep, you see policemen on the beat as much as in cars. And another big bonus: the government pay the tuition fees for kids from here to go to Uni in the UK.
  • Steve
    by Steve 1 year ago
    Sounds too good to be true and has put me in mind of a place I heard about called Daveland. But I suspect we're talking Manxmania?
  • Chocoholic
    by Chocoholic 1 year ago
    When I said 'my' island I meant where I live, not my fantasy world or my own private island (I wish) and you are spot on, Steve. I love it here, despite its faults. The benefits outway the disadvantages.
  • norman normington
    by norman normington 1 year ago
    I lived on the isle of Wight for years when my kids were wee nippers...it was and still is despite or because of its faults...
  • Steve
    by Steve 1 year ago
    Does a short fellow with a lisp in a buttler-monkey-suit greet you with a silver tray of cocktails when you arrive by boat plane? No? Then I'm not interested.
  • CJ
    by CJ 1 year ago
    I taught on the Isle of Wight for a term during my training. Odd place, to be honest. Great place to visit (we're going there next year for our family holiday) and *fantastic* geology to explore - loads of fossils and the like - but the people can be odd... they can be quite suspicious and insular. Not all of them, of course, just some of them, but enough for it to be noticable. Then again, Portsmouth is just as bad - we have an island mentality too, and I know people who have never gone north of Portsdown Hill. I myself never went further north than the M25 until I was about 12...

    In the end, I suppose I only have myself to blame. I chose to teach inner city (I had a chance to teach leafy suburb (in Chichester, where I went to school), but I went all Dangerous Minds and decided 'no! I want to make a difference!'. Heh, noble but naive. It has toughened me up, though - and I do get a huge sense of achievement when my charges leave Year 11 with good grades (not all the time...), but the social deprivation we see day in day out at my school can be quite depressing sometimes.

    Steve - you make a good point. We had one little darling in detention last night - I was discussing some work with the teacher holding the DT, in which the kids are supposed to sit quietly and / or get on with some work. To get a Friday after DT you've got to have done something pretty bad, so I knew this one was going to be a little madam... and how! She wouldn't sit down, she kept trying to run out of the classroom, whilst we were working, she kept trying to interrupt us - in the end, I told her that she wasn't being funny and that she needed to be quiet or she'd end up in another DT (the other teacher was ignoring her. and I can't abide that attitude. I know tackling them is sometimes more work than you want, but that's why we have such a problem!). She told me that she thought she was very funny and that I should shut up now. So I put her in a Senior Team DT (an hour next Friday with her Head of House), and she went off on one, saying I was out of order. In the end, she stormed out of the DT and that she wasn't 'doing no DTs, you can fuck right off'.

    What a lovely kid...

    But then, on the other hand, I had another kid during the day who came to see me to thank me for helping her the other day... so it is all swings and roundabouts. The vast majority of them are good, we just tend to forget that because the bad ones are so very bad and take up all of our time. Which is terrible, because we should be able to give our attention to the good ones, but since the inclusion policy came in (where we have to try to keep them in the classroom so they are not 'disadvantaged'), we're screwed. As far as I am concerned, if the muck about, they should be out, but every single policy is geared towards 'supporting' the ones who muck about, not helping the ones who work hard. Which kind of sucks... :(
  • Chocoholic
    by Chocoholic 1 year ago
    No, Steve, sorry, and all the women look like Benny from Crossroads in drag (according to AA Gill anyway).
  • norman normington
    by norman normington 1 year ago
    Benny eh! When's the next Ferry?
    Blimey Elysia We lived in Stamshaw before we moved to good old Zummerzet.
  • CJ
    by CJ 1 year ago
    Well well well, what a small world! (Considering my hubby is from Somerset originally, it's even smaller...) We live in lovely, lovely Fratton (.... yeah, that was sarcasm), but with house prices around here the way they are (and having a little 'un and me working part time) means we can't afford to move yet - we're looking to get out of the city at some point, though. Either Fareham or Drayton way. I'd love to go back to Emsworth (where I'm from originally), but hubby doesn't like the idea of being on the doorstep of his in-laws, and since I know I'd feel the same way if it was his mum, I can't really blame him for not wanting to go there... If we stay in Pompey, we'll probably go Baffins way. Southsea used to be the place du jour, but now its full of students and junkies - most of those lovely big houses are bedsits now. Southsea was fun when I was a student (lived just off South Parade Pier), but now it's too hectic. Ideally I'd love to go to Dorset, but that's waaaaaay out of our league at the moment!
  • Chocoholic
    by Chocoholic 1 year ago
    AA Git says a lot of things that are inaccurate, but it must be difficult to see properly when one's head is so far up one's own arse, LOL
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