In Praise Of Cloud Critiques

Published by: Gerry on 22nd Jan 2011 | View all blogs by Gerry
Gosh, what good fortune to find the Cloud. You put a chapter up in critiques, and half a dozen people give their views, sometimes coming back to add elaborations. What's so good about that? It's half a dozen viewpoints, that's what.

Yes, it's great to pay for a professional critique, but that critique, however insightful, will ultimately be one person's view. Okay, that person has lots of experience and expertise to back up what they say - well worth investing in.

For that matter, it could be well worth investing in two - from different companies - although that's where you might begin to feel uneasy. It's always possible that the well considered, well argued critique from company (a) might say something quite opposite to the well considered, well argued critique from company (b).

This is bound to happen sometimes - because what are we dealing with? Human reactions. How consistent are human reactions? Blessedly inconsistent. And that's why Cloud Critiques are such a valuable adjunct. You know you can't please all the people all of the time, but if you get half a dozen reactions you have more chance of seeing the general effect of your work.

In my case, it was a chapter that, for various reasons, I could no longer see as clearly as I wished. Consequence? There were some things I simply did not see at all. What happened? Some people pointed out some things, others pointed out others. The benefit? Lots of pointing = lots of things pointed at = more chance they would spot something I had not seen.

Ah Cloud, truly thou are mighty in thy works.

Comments

12 Comments

  • Mcallan
    by Mcallan 1 year ago
    And here endeth the lesson..:D
  • Mighty Jock
    by Mighty Jock 1 year ago
    It's defo very helpful.. I think being online helps too as i get very different feedback on here than i do from my local writers group. Both valid, but noticably different. don't know why.
  • Gerry
    by Gerry 1 year ago
    Yea verily, Mac! (Thinks: how do you spell a religious 'Yay'?)
    Jock - fascinating the feedbacks should be different. Could you specify how?
  • Tony
    by Tony 1 year ago
    It would be interesting to hear how they differ, MJ. Do you read stuff to your group and get an instant response? If so, that could account for some of the differences. On-line, we have a chance to sit back and consider it, re-read bits, spot the typos and punctuation errors and so on, which the group wouldn't be able to do. The other obvious difference is that they are face to face, we are 'virtually' annonymous. However, I'm not sure which way that affects our criticisms; you could argue it could go either way.
  • Mighty Jock
    by Mighty Jock 1 year ago
    Mmmmm, let me have a little think. I'm actually working on some stuff at the mo using feedback from here and my group at home. I will mull it over and try to pinpoint what i mean.
  • Peter
    by Peter 1 year ago
    Absolutely, Gerry. Very evident in Mighty Jock's feedback. With temerity, I would like to tap in to this wisdom and hopefully learn to eventually contribute something worthwhile, myself.
  • SecretSpi
    by SecretSpi 1 year ago
    I find Cloud criticism particularly useful in two areas:
    1. When someone confirms that niggling hunch that won't go away
    2. When someone looks at something in a completely different way, or from a different angle that hadn't occurred to you before.
  • Wrathnar the Unreasonable
    Totally agree, we defly get a lot out of having our work critiqued pon the Cloud. I wonder how much we learn when we reciprocate by critiquing the work of others? I've had ideas about my own work occur to me when commenting on someone else's work: "Hang on, I'm saying that about his story, but the same applies to that thing I wrote - I'd better have another look at it!"
    Also, I think critiquing requires a certain amount of moral courage; no point doing it if you're not gonna be honest, but hard to avoid hurting the writer's feelings - which I've done on occasion, oops. Often I've decided not to comment cos of that, even though I could have contributed something helpful.
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 1 year ago
    I welcome all comments on my stuff; positive and negative. I think I've only been offended once (wasn't by you though, Wrath x) but generally I know in advance what kind of critique I'll get as soon as I see the name/ profile pic next to the comments. I think I almost prefer the negative (unless they are just being rude) because I know that person is being honest and has taken time to give me some really helpful advice. What's great is that when I re-post the edited version I get those same peeps take time to read again and say ''yes- you're on the right lines.'' There is definitely a fab bunch of people on this here Cloud. Mwah xxx
  • Fabrizio
    by Fabrizio 1 year ago
    The critiques section is invaluable even more so for novice writers like myself who haven't written very much at all and needs as much guidance as they can get. I'm always grateful of criticism, both positive and negative but i always feel if someone is going to give negative criticism its best to try and follow that with positive advice on how they could do it better. I have and will continue to use the critiques section as often as I need to safe in the knowledge that my peers of all levels of age and experience are passionate about writing and the success of other word clouders :)
  • Amarantha
    by Amarantha 1 year ago
    I'm intrigued. I have yet to put up work for critique on Cloud simply because I don't know how. I would if I could so I guess it's up to me to get cracking! Reading all the above, I can say with absolute certainty that I'll never be 'hurt' by criticism of my efforts by other readers and writers. If you hate what I've written well that's okay ... just so long as you tell me why.

    No-one has the God-given right to be loved and it's only fair to be honest with each other. I will if you will.
  • stephenterry
    by stephenterry 1 year ago
    Am - we'd only be too delighted to baptise you ha ha. Go to Forum then Critique - open it up, and there's a little box at the top that says Create topic - click and you're off
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