Past life / soul novel idea

Published by: Kiki on 29th Aug 2010 | View all blogs by Kiki
Last night, I began work on a novel I want to write about past life regression / children believing that they are someone else or have imaginary friends. Why schizophrenic's choose the characters that inhabit their minds, telling them to perform certain tasks / have inner conversations. All of these subjects have fascinated me for the majority of my adult life. Seeking explanation; I have studied various psychological text books / internet and interviews.
This will be a fictional novel and centres around my interest in Noetic Science and what happens to the energy we release immediately after death (known as the soul to some). This energy cannot disintegrate, therefore, sits in the atmosphere all around us (do you see where I am going with this), my fictional tale has the energy being absorbed into a childs brain at birth, hence giving them a multiple presence in the mind. Past life regression uncovers details of the "soul energy" contained within a person, details of that energy's previous life etc, not our own pre-existence. Without this energy (from the dead), life of humans on this planet would not be able to continue.
Obviously this is a fictional tale with a great deal of scientific fact thrown in and is centred around the lives of four main characters, one being a child of six yrs. My niece; Sophie, believed for many years that she was somebody else. She re-named herself, dressed a certain way, even spoke in an odd accent sometimes. This worried some members of the family, but I found the whole thing interesting and because she was not scared or misbehaving, advised that they let it run its course. Oh, and she knew songs that she could not possibly have heard / learned. Sophie does not remember any of this now (six years on), though she still has bizarre dreams - just like her Aunty Kiki.
A dream has brought this all together for me and i'm really excited about writing it, so much so that I stayed up most of last night consumed in it all, neglecting my current WIP!! (Could have been the wine)
Is this something that people will read??
My brain would not settle until I had written down all of the character information / scenes / details. It's still buzzing now and I am beginning to think that I am going mad.
Anyway, I have now opened up my current MS in an attempt to re-immerse myself in the world of angels.
Anyones opinions would be greatfully received before I go and spend more hours / pages / words on this idea (though not until mu current MS is finished). I have already written 17k words on the idea as detailed above!

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42 Comments

  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Thanks Jill, you are a gem :) xx
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 1 year ago
    Yes, I think it sounds really interesting; I've written a novel on an allied subject myself (not the same angle and as yet, still lurking on my hard-drive). Did you realise that Spangles has a book coming out shortly on Angels? She recently blogged it.
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Yes, I knew about Spangles book. I also have a few Twitter friends that have novels coming out in the states!
    I started writing mine two years ago and scrapped it until I had some great feedback at the Winchester Writers' Conference. An agent in the states wants to see the finished product (they have only read the synopsis) so I have to finish it, though I would prefer an agent over here. Its called Dreme Guardian, and it's been a big part of my life for a while. It was another dream turned into a novel. I dream't it all from start to finish so had to write it. :)
  • maryluv
    by maryluv 1 year ago
    This is a subject that I find fascinating. I have a friend who's little boy used to say things like 'Remember when I was a little girl and I had a pink dress' and other such stuff. He stopped remembering it when he got to abut 6 or 7, though.
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Wow, maryluv, thats really interesting; Sophie was around seven when she stopped! I wonder if other children have been the same age, I feel a new chapter coming on. Doh, got to get back to angels. Thanks every-peeps x
  • maryluv
    by maryluv 1 year ago
    According to his mum, who is a very wise lady indeed, that is the age at which they lose touch with their former lives and focus on their present one.
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Ooh, interesting. I need to do some more study on past life regression, the lovely Kaz has offered me a book so that will be handy. :)
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 1 year ago
    Sounds fascinating. I love stuff like this! Get current MS finished tho! Bet it's really hard to do when you have such great ideas spinning around your head. Why doesn't wine have the same affect on me? Just makes me more stupid ;D X
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Thanks Gerilyn, I will take your advice!
    *laughing out loud at your wine comment*
    Wine makes me stupid too, especially in the presence of others. It also makes me hyper, so I don't sleep. I try too, but I get restless legs and start bloody twitching. So, fighting the droopy eyelids, I wander off to my computer and attempt to write.
  • Gels
    by Gels 1 year ago
    This sounds like a very interesting read Kik, I watched a doc about this kind of thing once, it was, like you mentioned a child thinking he was someone else and wanting to go back to his 'real' family, I would def read this type of thing. Good idea. Gels x
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Thanks Gels xx
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Did I really just spell gratefully, greatfully?! Oh dear, head must be foggier than I thought. :P
  • Wrathnar the Unreasonable
    I think that if you find the idea so exciting, that will come across to your readers, who will then share the excitement.

    It's possible to work on two novels at once. Whenever I feel blocked on one thing (which I think is cos my unconscious mind needs to work on it for a while) I immediately turn to one of the other things I'm working on. I'd say work on whatever you're most excited about at the time.

    I'm a little sceptical about past life regression. I've read accounts of apparently impossible knowledge etc, but have also read convincing rational explanations of the phenomena. Did you know that hypnotism (as used in regression) greatly stimulates the creative part of the mind? Also, brain injuries have been known to cause personality changes, and even the ability to speak a previously unknown foreign language. There are clearly deeper mysteries here, and a broader approach could lead in some surprising directions!

    When people write about the subject of past lives, they tend to be very partisan. I'd like to read something with a more balanced approach to the subject, bringing both open-mindedness and scepticism to bear.
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Thanks Wrath, as normal, wise words. I too am a slight sceptic hence the approach from a different direction - not their past life but an energy. It's the wannabe scientist in me.
    There is scientific fact as well as ethereal.
    Thank you for your encouragement and I don't feel so guilty about writing more than one novel at a time now! :)
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    You may be a shimmery white pearl whenever you so wish :)
  • Spangles
    by Spangles 1 year ago
    This sounds really interesting, Kiki. Have you ever read Daphne du Maurier's The House on the Strand, where the main character takes a drug that propels him back in time so he becomes immersed in what's happening in a different century? It's not exactly past life regression/prior knowledge, but there is the lurking idea that maybe he's found a previous incarnation. I think Daphne du M did it brilliantly. It's a topic that Anya Seton explored in her novels too, although I think she's wildly unfashionable these days and may even be out of print.

    Although I do believe in past lives and I certainly believe that some children are born with knowledge of their previous lives, I also agree with Wrathy that the novel would work best if involved some level of open-mindedness rather than certainty.

    Yes, I have also heard that children forget all past experiences by the age of seven. In astrological terms, this is a very significant age when growing up begins - you could say that the final vestiges of babyhood give way to childhood. Uri Geller once told me that children below the age of seven can bend spoons with no problems at all - they believe that it can happen because they haven't yet been told otherwise by adults. But after the age of seven they can't do it nearly as easily because by then they've been taught that such things aren't possible. And therefore they aren't.

    My elder niece had past life memories of being burnt to death in a church. She's now nearly 12 and I must ask her if she still remembers that. When I first saw her, 24 hours after she'd been born, I held her, stared into her eyes and asked her where she'd come from. (I mean spiritually, by the way, not physically, as even I know the answer to that one!) She seemed to be sending me all sorts of information and even looked quite impatient when I didn't understand it.
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Wow Spangles, you are a very interesting person, and it appears we are all open-minded individuals. I suppose you have to be as a writer. I love the cosmos and all things associated (regularly placing cosmic orders!) so I am open to all sorts of theories and explanations. I would be really grateful if you could ask you niece and let me know, I am interested.
    Daphne du Maurier is not familiar but I will go and research her now.
    Loving that you have spoken to Uri Geller, amazing eccentric man.
    Thank you for your advice and information :)
  • Gerry
    by Gerry 1 year ago
    You've probably heard of Dr Ian Stevenson's work: Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation (1974) From what I can gather, you would get a properly scientific (and appropriately sceptical) approach there (and from his other books). Hypnotic regression produces fascinating material but from an evidential point of view it's not so good as children's apparent memories. (Having said that, it was pretty impressive when Jane Evans, regressed by Arnall Bloxham as Rebecca Jewess of York, remembered hiding in the crypt of a church that didn't have a crypt. Or at least that's all people knew at the time. But when the church, St Mary's Castlegate, was decommissioned and converted into a museum, they found - guess what? - a crypt. Fairly convincing but not totally, as you can see if you type the relevant words into google.)

    Oh but would I read the book? Course I would. Don't be daft!
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Thanks Gerry, yes I know Dr Ian Stevenson's work. Well reminded.
    Thanks again for the encouragement :)
  • norman normington
    by norman normington 1 year ago
    I was very sceptical until my son then aged 4 told us at breakfast about...
    "When I lived before I was a man teacher, I had a red montego estate with a tow bar, but I died and went in my space egg to the moon of eggs and played with the other space eggs until it was time to come and be Ben..."
    As you could guess you could hear the old proverbial pin drop.
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Norman - that is amazing!
    I only have one very strange episode from when my son was little, he was a bit of a science genius but never talked about another life. When he was four, the life van came to the school to talk about the digestive system and healthy eating with the kids. Present in the group were around four teachers, teaching assistants and about 60 children. The woman started talking about chewing food porperly etc when my son thrust his hand in the air (I am recalling the teachers stories), he just would not settle (they thought that he needed the loo). After a couple of minutes they finally asked what was up and he stood as if he was going to do a presentation, what he said next shocked everyone hence the reason that they came to me. He told them about anatomy, that food is swallowed down the esophagus where it travels through to the stomach, he talked about the intestine, bowel and bladder. He was four and we had never talked about it before (apart from the normal, where does poo come from etc). His teacher actually called me into school to talk to me about it. Perhaps he was a doctor / biologist in a previous life or is inhabited by a doctors energy?? I love your four year old's story. Would everybody mind if I quoted some of these tales in my book? Obviously no names etc (apart from thank you's). Thanks Norman :)
  • Weens
    by Weens 1 year ago
    This is a subject that really fascinates me and I think as far as writing is concerned, the possibilities are endless. Writing fiction, you can take this in any direction you want. You can see from the replies you have, that this is a subject that fascinates a lot of people. You seem to have a good knowledge of the subject too. If I were researching this topic, I might never get around to writing it, I'd be too engrossed in the material I was finding. Good luck with it, I think it will make a terrific novel.
  • Babblefish
    by Babblefish 1 year ago
    Hmmm... On the one hand I am incredibly sceptical about said science, and actual science content of said science, but that's just a personal opinion. As far as book interest and marketability goes, hell yeah, definitely, I'm sure there are plenty of people who would find this interesting. Personally the deal breaker for me is always the characters, and since none of them has been detailed, I not really sure what to make of it, but definitly sounds interesting. (just... don't lose focus on your current WIP. I don't even know how many times I've done that.)
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Thank you Weens - As soon as I have finished my Dreme Guardian book, I will get back to this one straight away. I really appreciate everyone who took the time to reply, thank you :)
    Thanks Babblefish - I am taking your advice.
  • mike
    by mike 1 year ago
    It sounds like an interesting idea but can you make it work for people who are sceptical about the paranormal? - any life after death? You are fortunate that we all wish such things were. Will a film adaption be possible? There do seem to be many films on the subject. There was a best seller a few years ago about the ghost of a girl who had been murdered. I cannot remember the title but it was made into a badly reviewed film by the person who directed ' Lord of the Rings.' I read the book and enjoyed it, but if it had not been a best-seller, I would probably not have looked at it. I have fairly average reading tastes. At the moment i am reading a novel by Bernice Rubins about a woman who meets God, a biography of Douglas Jerold - a Victorian journalist, and a book called 'The Empire of the Sand about European involvement n the Far East - which is probably average reading tastes. So I could well encompass your idea, I enjoyed the 'Sixth sense' but cannot get on with 'Star Wars' - though i have made many attempts and even watched the first film - almost to the end.
    Spangles is quite right. Daphne Du Maurier has had great successes with this sort of material. She is still a very popular author.
  • Spangles
    by Spangles 1 year ago
    Kiki, you certainly seem to have grabbed everyone's attention! And the story about your biologically-minded small boy is amazing. I hope you write your novel because I'd love to read it.

    I agree with Babblefish - it all hangs on the characters. I think they have to be convincing and we have to care about them and believe in them, and then we can believe in their experiences. The sort of book I put down immediately is the one where the characters are subsidiary to the meaningful plot, which revolves around A Serious Spiritual Message. As Sam Goldwyn famously said, if you want to send a message, call Western Union!

    Have you read Jenny Cockell's book Across Time and Death: A Mother's Search for her Past Life Children? She believes that she was a woman called Mary Sutton in Ireland in the early 20th century, and she set out to find Mary's children. There's quite a lot about her on the internet. You might also find it helpful to look at the novels of Barbara Erskine and Phil Rickman, if you don't already know them. They don't deal with past lives (or not the ones I've read, anyway) but they do deal with the paranormal in a very successful way. Especially Barbara Erskine.

    I will certainly ask my niece about the church next time I see her. I'm lucky because I had open-minded relatives while growing up, and vividly remember discussing the transmigration of souls with my grandmother over tea when I was small! Sorry, that sounds a bit pompous but isn't meant to be. We just talked about whether it was possible to come back as a wasp, for instance.
  • Mcallan
    by Mcallan 1 year ago
    Just been reading everyone's comments and suggestions Kiki. What a facinating subject, and great material for a novel. Really wishing you the best of luck with this idea..:)
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Hi Spangles, everyone has been fantastic and i've loved all of the recollections and experiences of fellow clouders (lots of material for me to munch on). Barbara Erskine writes amazing paranormal books (you are right) but I have not read Phil Rickman, I shall endeavour to do so. I have not read Jenny Cockell's book but the story is familiar to me, I will read up on her. You never sound pompous so please do not apologise.
    The character's are currently growing inside my tiny brain.
    In my dream there was a child psychologist sitting in a play environment (play therapy room) talking with the six year old girl about who she believed she was. The paranoid mother had taken her daughter following multiple episodes of strange and unexplained behaviours (won't list on here yet). The little girl was well spoken with an extensive vocabulary (too advanced for her age). Mother was impatient and stressing about the behaviour thinking her daughter was schizophrenic /odd, shouting at the little girl whenever she talked about her past life (or who she thought she really was). Sceptical and a non-believer; mother had been raised in a strict religious (my sons nan is a lay reader so this could have had some bearing) household and was taught that all of this stuff was mumbo-jumbo (crap).
    The scene when the little girl was born was so vivid it was wild!
    As the mother pushed for the last time and the little girl was born, there were sparks of light all around (invisible to everyone in the room apart from me and baby). The sparks of energy were absorbed through the fontanelle of the little girl and as she cried for the first time another woman's tears were echoing inside the babies head. This energy continued to talk to and sooth the baby as she got older and when she began to speak, the energy would speak with her. Her mother thought that she had an imaginary friend and asked all of her friends about it.
    I'll stop now as I could tell you the whole story and it would take forever. Cut a long story short; one of the mother's close friends had done past life regression and talks to her about it but mother dismisses it. Mothers friend starts talking to the little girl, secretly recording the conversations, and the friends fall out over it all. There is much, much more. I'm glad people share my interests, it's good to know you're not alone.
    Mcallan - Thanks mate :)
  • Green polka
    by Green polka 1 year ago
    Great that you got your dream down in time! I know I often wake with amazing in-depth plots and angles, just to fizzle away with my every conscious moment. I have a schizophrenic mum and have done quite a bit of research resulting in a screenplay, so I'll follow this space and look forward to more.
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Hey Green Polka - Thanks for stopping by and having a read. I studied Schizophrenia as part of my degree and my uncle is a professor of psychology in Tromso, Norway / associate to Durham University. He specialises in rehabilitating hospitalised schizophrenics back into the outside world (environmental psychology), or used to. It's a terrible disorder to live with but can be controlled with some degree of success now (drug therapy). You must have had such a tough time :(. Not an easy thing to live with I imagine. I would love to read your screenplay, have you posted it on here?
    My advice is to keep a notebook and pencil next to your bed ready for when you wake. I say pencil because I used to keep a pen but it leaked all over me. After scribbling down my dream I went back to sleep not realising that I was covered in blue biro ink. It was all over my face, chest, hands, in my hair!! Never again. It wouldn't come off either! :)
  • Green polka
    by Green polka 1 year ago
    It is successfully treated these days but only if the medication is taken religiously, unfortunately this is the loop hole in my mum’s eternally spiralling condition! But this has been the story of my life. I am not resentful, it’s just been tough, but it has made me! I haven't posted the play, I started writing at school and I wrote this as part of my final assessment in matric for Drama exams. I did very well with it. I haven't read it for years, it would be interesting to go back to it. Good one about the ink, I will definitely remember that. I am absolutely anal about my notebook so, I think I must just be more disciplined in what I write.
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    If you ever decide to post it let me know, I would love to read it :)
    I'm sorry you have had a tough time but you have the right attitude towards your past, it has made you who you are today. This is a reflection of my own views. You sound like a strong and forgiving person; I like that.
    If and when I post some stuff up here with regards to the schizophrenia subject please critique. Although I have knowledge of the subject, I don't have a vast amount of experience, and experience is what matters! Thanks again GP :)
  • Green polka
    by Green polka 1 year ago
    I look forward to it ...

    I find it frustrating following blogs, there need to be a 'watch this blog tag'.
  • Gerry
    by Gerry 1 year ago
    GP: I favour blogs over forum because you can go to the person's wall, look in the Latest Blog Posts section, and catch up with how a blog is doing. Forum stuff is difficult to find unless you've already starred it as a Watch Topic. (This isn't a very paranormal post, I do admit, although dowsing rods might help in seeking lost Forum topics.)
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Gerry - you're mad! Thanks for the tip :)
  • Bren
    by Bren 1 year ago
    Kiki - your idea sounds wonderful.
    It is easy to get carried away with an idea and have a manic phase and think ithat it is the best idea on the planet and then come a cropper, but it sounds as if you have masses of material. Usually when you are excited about a topic it comes across to the readers.
    I knew someone (closely) who went to regression therapists and had amazing experiences of themselves as a Roman soldier.
    There has been a documentary on children in India who believe they had a former life. They are treated in a special way as if they are gifted, it is not seen as unusual, as it might be in the west.
    As there are programs watched by millions concerning ghosts and psychics make lots of money from their books and shows I feel sure there will be a demand.
    Good luck to you.
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Thanks Bren, Not heard of the kids in India but will look it up. I'm still buzzing about it, you know when all this stuff sits in your head and suddenly one dream ties it all together somehow. Some of it could not be used (too far fetched) but most was definately printable. I'd already got about 10k words worth of research so was able to form the characters easily after my dream :). The little girl is the main protagonist for the first half of the book, the scientist for the second (this may change of course) but you never know. :)
  • Gerry
    by Gerry 1 year ago
    I meant to comment on part of Norman Normington's amazing post about his son aged 4 at the time, who said: "I died and went in my space egg to the moon of eggs and played with the other space eggs until it was time to come and be Ben"

    The aura is said to be egg shaped and hence, presumably, that's a suitable shape for a soul. Now how could a four year old know anything like that?
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Gerry - freaky :)
  • Gerry
    by Gerry 1 year ago
    Aha, aura photos! Will have to dig out mine and post it if I can. (All the colours of a Rasta Man.)
  • Kiki
    by Kiki 1 year ago
    Lol - You know what, I think that I am going to start a group under this title. A place for all to share stories / pics / experiences and where people feel free to talk about all of this. It would make a fab group (and thinking purely selfishly) and a great place for my research! :) I'll set it up tomorrow. This is so great, you guys really are fab!
  • Amarantha
    by Amarantha 1 year ago
    Coming late to this blog, Kiki, I find it so fascinating I'll have to watch out or I'll forget to get on with my WIP!

    For as long as I can remember I've had 'odd' but very real experiences. As a child I used to tell myself 'When I grow up I'll know what that meant.' Of course it didn't happen. I have ideas and some beliefs, but try always to keep an open mind. I formed what I call my Template and check how things that have happened to me fit into it. Mostly they fit a progression through many lives, taking what we've learned so far, digesting it in a kind of evaluation phase between and deciding what next we want to work on before choosing the situation we need to be born to in the next life. The more lives we've lived through, the longer the memories last in each following life.

    Perhaps working on your 'Fiction' will clarify a few things for you. I've found meditation can bring sudden flashes of what I think of as Enlightenment', that is ... becoming or being in the heart of the matter.

    I know I'd love the story you have in mind, and hope you'll complete it.
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