Talking Animals beyond Middle Grade

Published by: Flickimp on 22nd Sep 2011 | View all blogs by Flickimp

Some of the most loved stories that children read and forever remember involve a talking animal.

  • Little Red Riding Hood
  • The Three Little Pigs
  • The Tortoise and the Hare
  • Puss in Boots
  • …and many more
Though, during most part of my life, there was a stigma attached to talking-animal novels whereby they would be cast into the Middle Grade age bracket of novel writing. Now, don’t get me wrong, writing for MG is a great market. It is growing. But, it is not the one for me.
My first novel, The Last Strider, is about a cat who must overcome his fears of causing destruction and bringing about a greater danger that has been foretold. The novel will cover a vast range of topics including death, torture, destiny and retribution. Oh and the cat can talk. Sudden alarm-bells. Does this now mean I have to write for the MG market?
  • First draft of the novel was 148k — Yikes!
  • Current draft is 68k … perfect for the newbie in a Young Adult market.
  • But… if I tailored it for a MG… I might have to reduce the word count to between 35-50k.
And all because I have a talking animal.
Well, yes, that is the harsh truth. And many Literary Agents, no doubt, will drop my Synopsis into the Slush Pile-of-Doom when they see my 68k. Of course, there may be some that have a quick look, but in a majority will sling it.
Can I justify not writing for the MG market. Yes. Read again the one-liner about the book. Note; does the context give an indication of Little Red Riding Hood, a Disney inspired novel where the animals are cute? No. In fact, I best tell you that the cats are part of a world dominated by humans at war with raging, barbaric beasts. Yes, this is no Hansel and Gretal tea-party.
The Last Strider creates an endearing character (and his friends) who will suffer physically and mentally. The cats share human qualities, and in that they will have to answer emotive questions within themselves. Just because they are cats, you will not see them doing just cat-like things. Heck – I believe that the reader might forget they are cats because their journey could be coupled to that of a youngling.
Young Adults (and Adults) are more interested in an animal when it combines a form realism that they can relate to. If it is convincing and contains a plot that justifies the need of the talking animal, then go for it. The underlying theme can be the springboard from a MG to a YA.
It is a given that I have a hard sell to convince an agent to take interest, but then again, if I focus on writing a good novel and pitch it right, then opportunities could happen. Belief and focus.
There are novels out there, from the past, and new that contain a talking animal and have been written for the YA/Adult market. Here are some;
Please do comment if you have a view on YA novels with talking animals.
Do They belong in Middle Grade?
Or done right, can they earn their place in a YA market?
And please forward to any literary agents who may want to comment on the MG/YA fine line regarding this.

Comments

12 Comments

  • mike
    by mike 8 months ago
    Anthropomorphism? There is a long tradition.
  • Iti
    by Iti 8 months ago
    This is an interesting subject, but I am afraid I have never been that keen on 'talking animal' novels, not yet. But that is because I am scared of most animals, birds and insects you can name. So, excuse me if I am not catching the emotion.

    Having said that, I do carry a strong opinion on the originality of a concept and it's characters. Flick, do you remember that conversation we had about my character's age at FOW? Any major changes suggested for the main character of your project feels like a stab in the gut. But, as you had then said, a little modification can bring about the change that might be the equilibrium point for audience and the story.

    Talking animals are not that popular in Young-Adult because the 'tag' you are presenting is not attractive to our young audience. Tags like 'Talking animal,' makes youngsters turn the page, which is exactly the point agents press upon. And that is because of a simple fact that basic concept, the true depth of the story is hidden behind an unattractive 'tag.' If I were you I would change the tag to something more attractive. Give away your 'talking animal' only as much as you have to, and otherwise focus on the theme of your story. Once they are into the story (agents or audience) they will, just as you said, wouldn't mind if it's a cat or not. They might land up opening their mind to a new sight for more novels belonging to that genre.

    Good luck with the conquest!
  • Aonghus Fallon
    by Aonghus Fallon 8 months ago
    I remember somebody posed a similar question to an agent at Dystel & Goderich. They wanted to submit a middle-grade book with the same subject matter. He said talking animals creeped him out. And although I don't know all the books on your list, I know some of them - and the ones I recognise are around twenty years old. Tastes change. In which case you may have an uphill battle...
  • CJ
    by CJ 8 months ago
    Watership Down is one of my favourite books, and when I was around 13, I loved the Silver Brumby series, which was written from the perspective of a herd of wild horses (brumbies) - I read those alongside the likes of Stephen King, by the way...!

    I wish people would judge a book by its contents, but unfortunately, labels such as 'talking animals' may not help - I know my 11-12 year old pupils still love a good talking animal book, but you'd be pressed to find the older ones admitting to it. The teen / YA market is often driven by what is perceived as 'cool' as opposed to it just being a stonking good story, and if it doesn't tick the 'cool' box straight off, they won't read it (honestly, I am dismayed and alarmed by the sheer number of my kids who literally judge a book by its cover, to the point where they won't read one version of a book because they cover is 'crap', but will read exactly the same novel when it is released with a different, 'cooler' cover!! It's ridiculous). Make your main character a girl or boy trapped inside an animal's body and you might win them over, though...

    Aonghus - I am quite incensed that that agent wouldn't consider a book because 'talking animals creep him out'. It's not about what he wants - it's about what the audience wants! So what if they creep him out? That might be a bit of a naive attitude, but nothing gets my goat more than talent being scuppered because the person who holds the keys has a personal issue with something...
  • Aonghus Fallon
    by Aonghus Fallon 8 months ago
    Well - as far as I can remember - the comment was made more as a humorous aside and probably in the context that such books aren't as popular as they once were. To me the 'talking animals' theme in children's books began with Beatrix Potter and peaked with 'Watership Down'. There was a slew of imitations, then the whole thing seemed to peter out - Dick King-Smith being an exception to the general trend.
  • SecretSpi
    by SecretSpi 8 months ago
    Ely has a good point - what seems in vogue now as far as animals in teen books go is "shapeshifters" - there's a whole series by Ali Sparkes or all the werewolf books.
  • Flickimp
    by Flickimp 8 months ago
    Thanks to all for your comments.
    Yes, a definite uphill struggle, but initial MS Critique from Writers Workshop was very uplifting. The feedback was great re: the cats and the voice I had installed, especially with their reason for having that ability, let alone communicating with humans.

    But... nothing is a given.

    I'll keep plugging away, but am also putting my heart into a separate novel with no animals whatsoever. So if one fails, there are others to perk me up.

    PS... the tag is not the tag...just one I posted for here. In fact, similar to your character age change Iti, I have lowered one main character from 16 to 14... mainly because I may have to focus the writing of this to an upper MG. Lower YA market.
  • Flickimp
    by Flickimp 8 months ago
    I do recommend the Abhorsen novels by Garth Nix, for the voice he gives the dog and the cat, especially as to why they talk. For many, the novels are rubbish without the animals.
  • Ali
    by Ali 8 months ago
    Most of us have to produce a outstanding MS to get published. I think anyone who is writing a novel with 'talking animals' needs to write a extraordinary novel. Which most of your examples are.
    Indeed you may have written one.
    I have always been a animal lover (ex RSPCA/ISPCA and all that) but I wouldn't touch a 'talking animal' book with someone else's barge pole and niether would my 13 year old daughter. Sorry. I wish you the best of luck.
  • spike1
    by spike1 8 months ago
    I'm not ashamed to admit I read the spellsinger series when I was in my late teens/20s. (and the fact that I read the whole series obviously means I liked em)
    :)
    It's the story that matters not the species in my opinion.
  • Aonghus Fallon
    by Aonghus Fallon 8 months ago
    I'd make a distinction between the older genre - which imagines ordinary animals possessing human feelings, thoughts and intelligence - and a story in which say, a person finds themselves unexpectedly transformed into an animal or in which the animal's intelligence has been augumented in some fashion.

    Like I said, tastes change. 'Black Beauty' was originally written to give readers some idea as to how animals were mistreated at the time, but I'm guessing most modern readers don't need an animal to be imbued with human characteristics in order to appreciate that animals experience pain and misery just like we do. It might even obscure the issues the writer is trying to raise.

    To cite an analogy. I've always had a problem with Roman Patricians having public school accents (in films) because I feel this stereotype actually interferes with our ability to understand Roman cultere rather than illuminates it.
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 7 months ago
    I'm not sure what Middle Grade is, but I read loads of animal stories while at secondary school: Watership Down, The Plague Dogs, Duncton Wood & sequel, and many lesser known ones. I felt at the time, that these were aimed at the adult market, but I could be wrong. Lobsang Rampa wrote several starring his cat, I recall.
    I put words into the mouths of many of my animals, so I can hardly complain - but what irks me, is a human voice with animal fur - i.e. it doesn't sound like the pov of the animal at all and the animal is just a gimmick. If I don't believe in the animal - it's like not believing in any other character - my attention wanders and I begin to sigh.
    It's all in the writing, surely?
    Perhaps it wasn't that agent's cup of tea. Fair enough; there are plenty of others.
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