The Dream Machine

Published by: Tony on 12th Jan 2012 | View all blogs by Tony
I had a weird dream last night.

I heard someone ask the question, 'Who put the sea in the North Sea?' Now any of you who know me won't be surprised to learn that I answered, 'God did.' I heard the question again, 'Who put the sea in the North Sea?' So I answered again, 'God did.' The question was repeated a third time and I finally twigged, and said, 'There is no 'C' in the North Sea,' which was the correct answer, apparently.

What I find particularly facsinating about this is that part of my sub-conscious created the question and someone to ask it, while some other part of me didn't know the answer at first. How can that be? Discuss.

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39 Comments

  • AlanP
    by AlanP 4 months ago
    Not sure what you're on about here, but there's no F-in cheese either
  • Jill
    by Jill 4 months ago
    Tony, this is a fascinating one. I've worked a lot with dreams as a practitioner in Adlerian Individual Psychology and also in my own therapy. Have to go out soon, but will ponder upon your dream, as you have asked us to 'Discuss'.

    Briefly, Alfred Adler reckons that it is the purpose of dreams that counts and we should consider what feeling we wake up with.

    Do you feel the dream has served a purpose of some sort? Why did it take 3 attempts? What is that fact trying to tell you?

    The purpose/meaning will, of course, be totally 'Tony unique'. Others can only facilitate interpretation and I certainly don't think dream dictionaries can be relied upon to be accurate! :)
  • AlanP
    by AlanP 4 months ago
    Tony, the thing is, as I flippantly pointed out, that the structure of the joke is an old one. You probably have it stashed in some rarely accessed neural corner. It emerged as you rootled through your brain in your sleep and your more conscious self responded in character.

    There have been experiements with brain stimulation where people have perfect recall of childhood events that they haven't thought about in years. The brain is a fun place, I think.
  • stephenterry
    by stephenterry 4 months ago
    Now you're fired up for the pub quiz; mine's a pint of bitter, thanks. Oh, you want a discussion. Well that's an act of faith. Much better to take LSD.
  • Old Fat Prop
    by Old Fat Prop 4 months ago
    Just proves to the faithful and faithless that God isn't always the answer to the question. Sometimes we have to "C" things for ourselves.
  • Jill
    by Jill 4 months ago
    Alan, I agree with you - the brain is a fun place, as well as intriguing. (Following this thread with interest and amusement!).
  • Tony
    by Tony 4 months ago
    "and your more conscious self responded in character". I can understand that part, Alan. It's how 'I' didn't know the right answer straight away, since 'I' must have thought up the question in the first place.

    Pint coming right up, Stephen. Lol, Prop.

    I was more interested in the neurological phenomenon, Jill, than the psychological. But on that side, the only lasting feeling is being perplexed by my question posed above. It certainly is typically 'me'. It combines my fondness for word play with my strongly reasoned belief in Divine Creation. But as to why my sub-conscious should come up with such a silly joke question, and why I should not therefore immediately know the answer, I know not.
  • Jill
    by Jill 4 months ago
    Perhaps you have not been having sufficient fun of late?! :) Laugh out Loud Lots Tony....
  • MinxieAD
    by MinxieAD 4 months ago
    The word play is typical to you, Tony.

    I’ve had similar experiences, which I should have written down as they disappear to wherever once I wake sometimes. I wonder if you were waking at the point the question changed to there not being a ‘C’ in North Sea? That would mean that your sub conscious was beginning to fade and your brain was taking over, trying to make sense of what was going on and put it in to some kind of understandable order?

    I love things like this. Really interesting. Our dreams are a huge part of us, and yet, we don’t really have much control over them or how they leave us feeling, or do we?
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 4 months ago
    I agree with Jill. I think him upstairs was being playful. Hint to follow suit? :)
  • Tony
    by Tony 4 months ago
    I don't think I was about to wake up, but I'm not sure; I suppose I might have been. Speaking of which, another dream I had a few nights ago was the classic one where you find yourself naked in a public place. There weren't too many people around, but it was only going to be a matter of time before somebody noticed me and called the police or something. I was running along wondereing what I could do, where I could hide, when I thought, 'I know! I'll wake up. That'll do it.' And it did, needless to say. So who says I'm not having enough fun? :-)
  • Jill
    by Jill 4 months ago
    I'm not even going to go into the symbolism of nakedness dreams and certainly not going to share the many I've had! My subconscious is a devil at playing games and created hard, but fruitful work for my Jungian therapist and me!! We needed the laughs it provided....
  • Skylark
    by Skylark 4 months ago
    No idea what the answer is, Tony, but you've got me smiling :-)
  • Nibs
    by Nibs 4 months ago
    I'll have a bash at the naked scenario (sory not literally of course). Nakedness and embarrassment to be seen.
    Nakedness coupled with being afraid or ashamed of being seen in dreams has often meant a spell of poverty/ lower income/ not much money to spend.
    perhaps all this recession business on the news is starting to pitter away at your subconcious and paranoia.
    perhaps you are starting to feel you need to cut back on more spending yourself at this time.

    It is your brain telling you of your biggest issues to date.

    Of course this is only my opinion and you can take it or leave it. entirely up to you. :o)

    I love dreams. I used to write mine down religiously every night for 3 years till I 'got it'. The answer I mean. The answer is me. myself. I. just like the answer is you.
  • Nibs
    by Nibs 4 months ago
    ps, note to add to above
    running away from a problem never solved it sorry, you're gonna have to turn and face it. :o)
    Faith be with you my good man.
    :o)
  • sirtanicmills
    by sirtanicmills 4 months ago
    At dawn my lover comes to me
    And tells me of her dreams
    With no attempts to shovel the glimpse
    Into the ditch of what each one means
    At times I think there are no words
    But these to tell what's true
    And there are no truths outside the Gates of Eden.
  • sirtanicmills
    by sirtanicmills 4 months ago
    Not me, but my experience as interpreted by Bob Dylan.
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 4 months ago
    I used to have the naked dream a lot. My favourite recurring dream is one where I can fly. I've had a few dreams where i've woken up in my room and I'm floating on the ceiling. Last year on holiday I had a similiar dream and I floated through the ceiling to the room above and kept going until I was floating above the sea. Dreams are fantastic aren't they?! I don't like the dream where my teeth won't stop growing and I can't close my mouth though!

    A thought provoking blog, Tony. :D
  • sirtanicmills
    by sirtanicmills 4 months ago
    And the one where you are running away as fast as you can, but get nowhere. I hate that.
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 4 months ago
    Yeah- I always end up using my hands to try and pull myself forward because my feet refuse to co-operate.
  • Nibs
    by Nibs 4 months ago
    GROWING TEETH!!! Does that mean increased income???? did you have increased income around the time you dreamt those teeth dreams? curious.
    hahahaha
    the mind is amazing!!!
  • Gerry
    by Gerry 4 months ago
    Hey, I do the hands pulling the pavement. Good innit? Am always disappointed to find I can't do it in real life...
  • Nibs
    by Nibs 4 months ago
    I would go with the obvious with running away.... you get no where by running away, nothing gets solved by running away. It only puts the problem off for another day.
  • Jill
    by Jill 4 months ago
    Wow, can of worms opened up, Tony! :)
  • Tony
    by Tony 4 months ago
    Nibs - I'm afraid not. I'm most grateful to have reached retirement with an income that meets our needs. I think the recession probably affects my age group the least.

    Always nice to hear from Dylan, SM (although it was Zebedee, wasn't it, who always said 'Time for bed,' and encouraged dreaming?)

    Gerilyn, I have the flying one, too, although for me it more like defying gravity than flying. I'm usually jump down somewhere and as I'm about to land I will my self to stay off the ground and travel along as far as possible before actually touching down. You say you 'woke up' to find yourself floating near the ceiling. How do you mean, 'woke up'? Surely you were still dreaming. And from the ceiling could you see yourself still in bed?
  • Tony
    by Tony 4 months ago
    What contitutes running away, Nibs?
  • Autumn
    by Autumn 4 months ago
    Love dream threads. I agree with Alan in that I think you might have moved along in your dream state (rem or whatever) so your 'conscious' brain (with it's Tony-esque play on words fun) took over and answered it. I seem to recall you are good at riddles... and a lot of wisdom / quotes about the sea are biblical in root. What I find fascinating is HOW your brain changes states, but still keeps everything going; it's like it is switching you off...
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 4 months ago
    It felt like I was awake-until the next morning when i realised it was a dream. I didn't look down at the bed and i'm pretty sure it wasn't an outer body experience- but then who knows...? I sometimes suffer from that sleep paralysis thing- you know when your brain has woken up but your body hasn't and you can't move. Those dreams usually occur then. I saw a program once that said you're more likely to halucinate in those instances. i think being in a starnge bed in a hot country triggered it.

    My flying dreams sometimes come when i'm trying to run and i find that I can jump- and you just keep getting higher and higher.

    I can't remember if increased income came around the time of the growing teeth. What does it mean when you dream all your teeth have fallen out?
  • Tony
    by Tony 4 months ago
    ...you've been eating too many sweets!

    ('Mummy, is Rotterdam a bad word?' 'No, dear, it's the capital of Holland.' 'Well, in that case, the next time my sister eats my sweets, may they Rotterdam teeth.')
  • MarkR
    by MarkR 4 months ago
    Nice blog Tony - your brain never sleeps.

    Maybe cut out the cheese and biscuits before bedtime though ;-)
  • Tony
    by Tony 4 months ago
    I'm off now - to sleep. To sleep, perchance to dream.

    Watch this space...
  • Jill
    by Jill 4 months ago
    Teeth are supposed to represent power. Knowing a little of your work situation, the growing teeth could have meant you were feeling overpowered in the workplace and your subconscious was redressing the balance bigtime!

    Tony, I am watching your space. Unusually, I cannot remember last night's dreams, but I'm sure they served their purpose. :)
  • Tony
    by Tony 4 months ago
    Ok. Last night I dreamt of the world's worst roler-coaster similator. You sat on an ordinary upright chair and placed your hands on a metal bollard in front of you. This vibrated to similate the roller-coaster wheels on the track and jerked from side to side for going round bends. No video. It was rubbish!
  • Squidge
    by Squidge 4 months ago
    Going back to teeth...I have dreams where mine fall out, or shatter like in a Tom and Jerry cartoon - I can actually feel them rattling round my mouth! (Shuddering just at the memory!) Apparently as tooth loss is associated with growing older and thus change, it occurs more when there are significant upheavals in life - which has been tru for me.
    Would much rather have your dream Tony of the rollercoaster...it might have been a rubbish ride without the video, but my stomach would've done all the up-down thing otherwise - I can't watch that sort of film at all 'cos I feel too sick!
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 4 months ago
    I remembered another recurring dream I have; the searching for a loo dream! This is probably down to the fact that since I fell pregnant with my eldest son 6 years ago, I've never been able to go all night without a trip to the loo (sorry for tmi). So needing the loo is probably on my mind a lot. In my dream I'm searching for toilets but each one I find is unsuitable; quite often the loo is in the centre of a packed room or there will be a bunch of communal toilets with no cubical doors...and so on. I don't think there are any hidden meanings to this dream. I always wake up before I find the perfect loo and just go and use a real toilet!

    Tony your rubbish rollercoaster dream seems like it could have lots of meanings. Life is a roller coaster afterall- perhaps your life doesn't have as many ups and downs just now. Maybe instead of 'rubbish' it's just 'safe'.
  • Jill
    by Jill 4 months ago
    Ha ha! Antonio - If that really was your dream and not just fiction - my naughty side could read lots of innuendo into it!
  • Tony
    by Tony 4 months ago
    All true, Jill. I couldn't make it up - although, I suppose I did, didn't I?

    Oh, the searching for a loo, Geri! Being a gentleman of a certain age, I get that one frequently, too - including the one in the middle of a room full of people. The scary bit is that (very occasionally) I find one that's suitable and put it to good use in my dream. So far, I've had no 'accidents' but I'm thinking it's only a matter of time!
  • Squidge
    by Squidge 4 months ago
    Thank goodness someone else dreams of loos without doors on!
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 4 months ago
    Yay! I'm not alone in my wierd loo-search-dream-saga. :D
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