This is the face of ME

Published by: Weens on 9th Nov 2010 | View all blogs by Weens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUPkja02uR4&feature=player_embedded

and still the government won't put money in bio research. The methods used at present such as Cognitive Behavioural Therapy only help in the management of the illness. Other countries are now putting money into research on the back of findings that a retro virus (XMRV) is the cause. This is the same virus that causes HIV and Leukemia. More than a handful of studies are coming up with the same results, including the scientist that found Hepatitis B,  yet still the UK fail to get behind it. Their one trial showed nothing. Hardly surprising when they used different controls and methods to the rest of the world. Funny though, that from November 1st, there is a lifetime ban on anyone with ME/CFS giving blood. There is also the fact that World Health Organisation class it as a neurological disease and has done so since 1968. Uk Government seems to overlook this factor.

We only have to look backwards a couple of decades or so, to see that the same thing happened with MS.

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  • stephenterry
    by stephenterry 1 year ago
    Interesting - tell me about XMRV - or provide a link - it is pertinent to my current HIV themed novel
  • Athelstone
    by Athelstone 1 year ago
    Hi Stephen - there are several, but this is useful http://xmrv.me.uk/

    My partner suffered a bout of something like ME, maybe it was ME, a few years ago, shortly after a couple of episodes of flu. Her treatment was dreadful. In spite of the fact that she was an energetic, enthusiastic person, who loved her job, the doctor(s) insisted that it must be work-related stress, or simple fatigue. At the outset, she wan't at all depressed, simply tired (and puzzled). After 6 months, when the only treatment she had been offered was a course of anti-depressants, she was beginning to think about taking them. Fontunately, she got through it, although it took another 6 months before she began to feel well again. Others aren't so lucky.

    It's a very frustrating condition, and one which in the early stages is easily overlooked, because the symptoms are so commonplace 'fatigue, poor concentration and memory, anxiety etc.' and of course, everybody gets those sometimes.

    It was only a few years ago, when my thyroid decided to tuck itself in and sleep forever, and I started to experience very similar symptoms, that I realised just how frustrating it can be. Forunately, in my case, my doctor took it seriously and ordered some blood tests.
  • MinxieAD
    by MinxieAD 1 year ago
    Hi Weens.

    I think that it is frustrating that illnesses which are less well known seem to get less funding/investigation. I think a lot of funding comes from charities also, so the illnesses which affect the majority are the more likely to be contributed to. As usual, 'we' don't seem to be doing enough to help sufferers of all illnesses. It's quite shocking that when money is eventually put aside it isn't being put to very good use!

    Also, I don't know a lot about ME, but I should think that to catch any debilitating illness early and treating it before it progresses, the more beneficial it is for the patient. Possibly even halting the progression in some cases, I'm sure?

    I am off work with flu at the moment, feeling sorry for myself, so the emotional side must be as delibitating as the physical on days. It's amazing how upbeat you always seem when I'm sat here tearful just because I've got a bit of a runny nose and my arms ache a bit !
  • Gels
    by Gels 1 year ago
    This is so so frustrating Weens, why the government can't get behind something like this when other countries seem more than willing. The big 'all to do with money' will be the biggie here.

    My brother is fighting a losing battle at the moment with the government to put more money behind MS and the CCSVI link, which he can't seem to get tested for....very frustrating and seems more to do with money than anything else.

    I feel your annoyance...All the best to you Weens x
  • Gerry
    by Gerry 1 year ago
    The medical profession puzzles me. Having taught many bright, idealistic youngsters who go on to study medicine, I would expect doctors to be - well - bright and idealistic, yet there's a terrible tendency for many of them to fall back on orthodoxy, no matter how stupid the orthodoxy. Any idiot can tell that the sheer numbers of ME/CFS sufferers argues against malingering as a realistic cause, yet time after time we used to read reports of sufferers experiencing what amounted to abuse as 'professionals' tried to jog them out of their condition (e.g. chuck em in a swimming pool).

    I think the deep rooted cause is the prevailing scientific orthodoxy that the way to knowledge is to take things to pieces. Hence, science tends to be atomistic and analytical - which is good up to a point - but it also needs to look at things holistically, treat the patient as a whole person, look at a wide spectrum of causes, don't get hooked on just one approach e.g. CBT.
  • Bren
    by Bren 1 year ago
    Weens - as you know, I am with you. Who would have thought that when I first had it diagnosed twenty years ago that the position of funding for researc would be the same today. Drastic. Even when doctors go down with it they are thought, by their colleagues to be stressed or malingering. A hospital as huge as Addenbrookes provides a very poor service for M.E.
    People who have similar/some symptoms for a few months usually have post viral fatigue, which is debilitating, as is the flu, but it is not the same as having M.E.
    Here's to them getting it together as soon as they can.
    For some reason it is not thought serious enough, yet it prevents hundreds of thousands of people from living fulfilling working lives.
  • Spangles
    by Spangles 1 year ago
    It is a terrible state of affairs. And I can't help wondering if there is a connection here between the pharmaceutical giants and whichever government happens to be in power at the time. I may be talking complete rubbish, in which case you are all welcome to tell me so, but it seems to me that if ME were treatable with a particular drug that could be patented and then distributed to make lots of lovely money (especially if it caused side-effects that had to be treated with another lovely profit-making drug from the same company), the big guns in the pharmaceutical companies would want the NHS to prescribe it and would do whatever they could to make that happen. But all the while there is no 'magic bullet', the pharmaceutical conferences at which doctors are told about the latest drugs will not mention ME (presumably) because there are so many other drugs to promote.

    If you think about the rise in prescriptions for statins, which are pushed hard by the drug companies and therefore by doctors and even some MPs (I seem to remember that one of them said statins should be put into food so everyone can benefit - ha!), you can see how some drugs become the medical flavour of the month because of the massive revenues associated with them.

    Or am I simply hideously sceptical about how money and other incentives have affected the judgement of the medical profession?
  • Natalie James (Tors)
    by Natalie James (Tors) 1 year ago
    You've hit the nail on the head with pharmaceuticals. You just have to look to stem cells, it is believed that they could help cure so much, so why the reluctance to trail them? I reckon because pharmaceutical companies will loose out.
  • Natalie James (Tors)
    by Natalie James (Tors) 1 year ago
    Also pharmaceuticals help fund alot of research, they aren't going to want to put there money into something which could put them out of business.
  • Weens
    by Weens 1 year ago
    Thanks for all your comments. I got myself a bit wound up, hence this blog.

    Stephenterry, just google XMRV there is a lot of info on the net after they find the link in the Reno research facility. If that doesn't provide you with what you are looking for, try retrovirus.

    Athelstone, this is just how they treated MS thirty years ago.

    My lovely Minxie, thanks for your eternal support, you don't know how much it is appreciated.

    Gels, I hope that the government do something about both MS and ME, I hope your brother is not having too bad a spell.

    Gerry, I know you understand and you make a very valid point.

    Bren, my ME friend who listens to me moan on a bad day. Thank you for your support.

    Spangles and Tors, you may have a point there, I suspect there is more than an element of truth in what you say.

    Thanks again to all of you for your comments and for taking the time to watch the film and read.
  • Bren
    by Bren 1 year ago
    You are welcome Weens. I am not surprised you get wound up. I was wound up just answering you. That is the trouble with M.E the people with it are too ill to fight. The family are too busy caring for them etc. A Canadian doctor said that governements were afraid to spend money on research as they daren't acknowledge how many people have it as the bill would be too great!
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 1 year ago
    Weens, I don't know what to say except to add my voice of support for you.
    As a child, all illnesses had names (measles, mumps) and the doctor was confident of treatment. Nowadays, the diagnosis as often as not, is "Non-specific viral infection" or something like that and the treatment is often hit-and-miss. Perhaps there is too much empirical data and not enough pulling together and extrapolation? And I think the drug companies play a large part too, in muddying the waters. I feel your frustration.
    Hugs. xxx
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