How do you know when they've had enough?

Published by: Caducean Whisks on 26th Aug 2010 | View all blogs by Caducean Whisks

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  • Elysia
    by Elysia 1 year ago
    You know, there are a lot of people out there who would say 'but it's just a chicken...'. Heh, if I'm honest, I'd probably be one of them. But after reading this, I have a solid lump in my throat. Be well, little Daffodil - you're definitely luckier than most.
  • AlanP
    by AlanP 1 year ago
    The thing is, non of CW's chickens are just chickens. They have names, so they are family. At least that's how things work here, not that I keep chickens.
  • Chanty
    by Chanty 1 year ago
    OMG - Whisks, you have taken me to some terribly sad memories of my own here. I'm in tears having read and relived this in my mind and heart. I feel your pain and the tiny bits of hope you are holding on to. This is such a hard time for someone that truly loves their animals, extensions of the family. I hope that by writing about it, it's helped to ease the pain and tension a little. My thoughts are with you and hope all works out for the best, whatever the out come is. Know that there's a little spot in heaven for her and that she will live on in your heart and memories. C xxx
  • mike
    by mike 1 year ago
    There is no God. I cannot watch some of the nature programmes on TV. One animal chasing another animal in glorious slow motion,and then killing it for food. I must confess I am not a vegetarian and when asked why not I am, I put the blame on God.
    It is your writing skill that brings out the horror of it all and your humour that makes it bearable. Last week, I think it was, The only gleam of light in my life had been the sight, on TV, of two middle-aged men poking holes in hot water bottles so that people would get wet when they slept. What absolute rotters!
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 1 year ago
    Ah gosh- I've never met her- not even seen a pic of her and now I'm so desperate for her to be ok. Good luck Daffodil, get better soon, chick x
  • Rebecca Holmes
    by Rebecca Holmes 1 year ago
    You had me with you all the way there. Good luck Daffodil. As you say, it's a case of knowing when they've had enough. A vet can advise, but he/she can only go on what see they see for a couple of minutes in their surgery. I really think that on the whole they're better dying at home.
    I've had a couple of elderly rabbits die in the last 18 months. You could see they were going downhill in the last few days, and with each of them I thought if they'd not passed over by a certain time, I'd have to take them to the vet, but they both died just a few hours before that time, in the house and being stroked during their last few minutes, with no struggle.
    The same with two hamsters we had. One of them, Milly, had cancer, with a massive growth on her neck. The vet advised there was nothing to do but bring her in when she'd had enough. She was still friendly and interested in us even though she was sleeping a lot more and not eating much. She used to love running round in one of those clear balls. A couple of days before she died, we let her out of her cage for her evening wander round - she still appreciated it though she was too weak by then to do more than potter for a few minutes. The ball was lying a couple of feet away, without its cover on. To our surprise, she climbed into it and managed a couple of -albeit slow - rotations before climbing out. We got the feeling that she was satisfied she'd done it. The next night, she'd lost interest in us and I made up my mind I'd take her to the vets' next morning if she was still alive. My husband always gave her a slice of cucumber as a treat last thing at night before he came up to bed. That night she didn't want it, and in the morning she was dead.
    My old cat had got to the stage where she couldn't jump up onto our bed any more and had to be tempted to eat, but she still loved to be with us and wanted to be involved in what we were doing. She died in her sleep with no sign of any struggle.
    If you know your animals, it's little things that tell you what they want, and whether they're ready to go.
  • maryluv
    by maryluv 1 year ago
    A kernal of corn, a raisin and lots of loving care. Even if she doesn't make it - and fingers crossed she does - she has had such a good life since she was adpoted by you that her end can only be a peaceful one. You can be at peace with that.
  • Spangles
    by Spangles 1 year ago
    This is so poignant, especially as you've been through this before. Whatever happens, you can comfort yourself with the knowledge that you've done your best for her, and that she's loved. Does she know she's loved? I bet she does.

    Good luck to both of you. xxx
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 1 year ago
    Thank you so much, people, you're truly kind. Daffy went out for a run with the others this afternoon. I say "run", I mean "painfully slow steps". She kept up with the others, pretended to forage, closed her eyes a few times (I held my breath) but enjoyed the stimulation of chatter around her. She even trilled a few times (I exhaled - it's a lovely, happy sound). Back inside, she managed a sip of Readibrek before she stood in it. I turned on the heat lamp and before I knew it, she was basking, just like she always used to. If she were human, she'd live in Benidorm. She's back out in the run now for half and hour before bedtime, just to check in with the gang and have another go at the greens. She's in with a chance, tomorrow.
  • karen
    by karen 1 year ago
    Been there recently with my 17 year old jack Russell. She stopped eating and was quietly fading away and I said goodbye to her every night hoping she would slip away quietly but she didn't. I made the appointment and cried for 24 hours. The only good thing was that I was there with her at the end and I believe she did know how much I loved her. It doesn't matter whether it's a cat, dog, chicken, wild animal, the feeling is always the same. Good luck, I'm sure you'll be doing the right thing.
  • Aonghus Fallon
    by Aonghus Fallon 1 year ago
    I guess owning any animal means knowing you'll outlive it, but another issue is their immediate quality of life. My lab is six years old, but has already developed a pronounced limp. Turns out she has severe athritis in her right hip. I try not to exercise her as much as I used to, but inevitably she'll run around a bit more than she should and - equally inevitably - she'll be so stiff she can't clamber down off her sofa later the same evening - yeah, yeah, I know, her own sofa - and it brings a lump to my throat watching her try to do so, especially as she's still a relatively young dog.

    And even now, I'm wondering - what's the cut-off point? And I think that's the painful part of being a pet-owner - as you so succinctly establish, Whisks. You have the power of life and death over a living creature. You are also better equipped than the animal in question to make the decisions you feel are best for it. After all, you'll probably know what's wrong with it in the first place and what its natural life-span should be.

    Sometimes though, I wish I didn't.
  • Wrathnar the Unreasonable
    I found this very moving. It reminded me of when I found a run-over cat in the road. I was about 12, I think. I knocked on the nearest houses to ask if it was their cat, and they all responded the same way: what is wrong with you, are you some kind of loony?

    So I went back to the cat, who was lying in the road while cars zoomed past and bleeding from its rear. I could tell that no vet could help the poor thing; it was obviously mortally wounded. There's a thing I know about cats, cos I lived like a wild animal myself as a child: I'd often find dead cats, or their bones, in obscure places. They prefer to do their dying in peace and privacy. So I found a piece of board and slid it under the dying cat, being very careful not to hurt it, carried it into the nearby field and found it a place under the hedge where it wouldn't be disturbed. I said goodbye, and I'm certain it gave me a look of gratitude before I walked away.
  • Elysia
    by Elysia 1 year ago
    I too have been there - our retriever, Jess, was 15 when she had a stroke. She lost the use of her back legs - she couldn't even wag her tail any more, bless her - and she was in constant pain. The decision to put her down was at once the kindest and the most difficult one we had to make. It's a horrible, terrible thing, to lose a beloved animal. I'm dreading the day my cats decide enough is enough... (although I hope that won't be for a long time yet - my last cat lived to be 21, and only died 'cos my Dad accidentally ran him over (long story...). I'm treating these two the same way he was treated, so I'm hoping they'll manage something similar - they're 11 now).
  • norman normington
    by norman normington 1 year ago
    We have Hattie, Martha, Mabel, Gladys, Gloria and 6 new battery girls, but we call the battery girls the battery girls as they all look alike, each has her own personality and I am hugely fond of them.
    Our Staff Megan is now almost 15 and she is dying, her legs have just about gone and my OH as her first person has decided it is time, so on Tuesday we will set off to the vet and hopefully get it right and Meg will depart.
    I shall dig a hole for her in the garden and we shall probably plant a shrub or a tree where she lays.
    I shall miss her hugely, but she has no life and is horribly depressed.
    So it is her time, I for one do not fear dying but f**k me am I scared of lingering in some hideous twilight, shadow world for years and years in some home or hospital.
    Meg will live like all my other departed Dogs, cats etc... in my memories and we will get a companion for Ted and she will be a rescue oldie and we will give her as good a home as we can and mourn her when she goes.
    Not sure how I shall be when Ted croaks though?
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 1 year ago
    Well, Friday's appt came and went - and we're both back home where we belong: I'm happy to announce that Daffy lives to cluck another day. Will flesh out the story later, but for now, we'd both like to thank our well-wishers, truly, deeply, madly. xxx
  • Gerilyn
    by Gerilyn 1 year ago
    Ah, lovely news! xxx
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 1 year ago
    Thanks Geri. Sorry to be so brief when people have been so kind - it's been a helluva day and I'm whacked out with it all. Will respond more fully, in the fullness of. Must sort them all out for bedtime, now - it's getting dark. x
  • Barb
    by Barb 1 year ago
    A lovely piece of writing about a lovely girl. Thank you for sharing this with us.
  • Chanty
    by Chanty 1 year ago
    Fantastic news Whisks, you relax and just enjoy watching her and all your other little ones out in the garden.. C xx
  • Ancient Woodland
    by Ancient Woodland 1 year ago
    Ah Whisks, you soft lump. Beautifully written, as ever.

    I'm not looking forward to the day when Mac's hips start to go. When his life is full of misery instead of joy I'll have to do the right thing and I know I'll be in bits over it.

    'Nuff said.
  • Kim
    by Kim 1 year ago
    Clucking heck Whisks. You certianly know how to bring a tear to the eye.

    Hope all proceeds as you and Daffy would wish.

    Kim x
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 1 year ago
    Thanks all, once again. Daffy continues to hover between life and death. Up one minute, down the next. Oh, for a crystal ball. I'm overwhelmed by your support - thought you'd all laugh. Well, some of you didn't and I'm grateful. If you trust people with your feelings, they often come up trumps, don't they? It's a new lesson for me. I live and learn and am humbled.
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 1 year ago
    Daffy has been up, Daffy has been down. I no longer know whether or not she's getting better. But I think now, she's had enough. Thanks Ely, AlanP, Chanty, mike, Gerilyn, Rebecca, Maryluv, Spangles, Jill, Karen55, Aonghus, Wrath, Norman, Barb, Woody, Kim for your kind words and for sharing your own stories. You've made me feel that I'm not as daft as I probably am.
  • AlanP
    by AlanP 1 year ago
    Dear CW. Whatever the outcome Daffodil has had an infinitely better life than many chickens are blessed with, (particularly battery chickens) and that is down to you. You aren't daft. I speak for myself, but I expect most will agree, actually you are alright. So just stick in there and keep writing about it all. You have an audience here you know.
  • Caducean Whisks
    by Caducean Whisks 1 year ago
    To complete the story: All done now. RIP sunny Daffodil.
    And thanks Alan. You're a goodun too.
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